Allow me to introduce my shield to your face
To some extent, Warriors have fought like this for quite awhile. Shield Bash, Shield Slam, things like that. It wasn't just Shield Block. However, none of that stuff hit very hard. Sure, Protection Warriors shouldn't be able to rock the DPS with their shield, but Shield Slam was more like Shield Bump. The higher block values and thus higher Shield Slam damage is exciting, and the addition of Sword and Board puts even more emphasis on the shield.
Protection Paladins get some of this, too. It's not just about blocking via Holy Shield. The Burning Crusade added Avenger's Shield, and Wrath of the Lich King is taking it farther with Shield of Righteousness. At least to me, this seems like a fun direction. When I'm tanking, I don't like to envision my Paladin huddled behind their shield and occasionally poking their sword out at something with their eyes squeezed shut. I want to go in there and bash heads, and barrel things over with my shield.
I much prefer thinking of my shield as another weapon, and I'm glad to see that's being explored further by the devs.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
9-02-2008 @ 12:38PM
Addisen said...
Ya, shields are a viable form of combat. No one ever just sits behind their shield and cowers. They bash people with them. Ya spartans!!!(and gnomes)
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9-02-2008 @ 12:51PM
Paedolos said...
Although I think it would take a bit more than 300 gnomes to defend Sparta...
;-)
9-02-2008 @ 2:43PM
Durante said...
Not true; if the gnomes were undercooked all the orc's could get food poisoning.
9-02-2008 @ 4:28PM
Geamo said...
What the?
The above picture is from 300, yet he was referencing Maximus, from Gladiator.
Gladiator beats 300 any day.
9-03-2008 @ 10:11AM
Kaylek said...
I enjoyed Gladiator. But.
300 > Gladiator
Those who disagree have no soul.
9-02-2008 @ 12:42PM
Graimerin said...
I have both a warrior and a Pally using shield bash on my warrior i always thouhgt as getting room to swing the sword. On the Pally its just that a way for the bad guy to slowly wear himself out, think the rope a dope(Ali great rope defense) he might have been hiding but when he sprang out it was with devasting power. Now if they can figure away for that kinda of counter to be added hiding will have way more fun for me
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9-02-2008 @ 1:01PM
Zotiko said...
Two things I'd change about warriors:
1) Make shields a weapon, with swing times and dps.
2) Make warriors a viable dueling class. (and not just for rogues at max level with max gear)
From an RP standpoint, I love playing my warrior. That being said, I play on a pvp realm and mainly solo. I can't even count the number of times I have had someone ride by, then dismount to come back for the free HK.
Tanking is a chore too, when it comes to more than two mobs on a warrior. Especially when you have a pally-heavy guild. I am VERY jealous with their ability to aoe tank.
Skill level aside, I think that these two changes would make warrior a much more fun class to play.
However, I think I may have actually just described the DK....
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9-03-2008 @ 7:06AM
mudkipz said...
Multi tanking?
np
Aoe tanking?
useless in raids.
for the rest l2tank:D
9-02-2008 @ 1:02PM
magicswordking said...
My main is a paladin tank and I've always loved the nature of paladin shield-fighting, and its just getting better. I'd always carry two shields, the best tanking shield I could find and a Hardened Lichen Guard with a Felsteel Shield Spike for combat. You'd be surprised at how much a paladin can tear people up with a shield in combat. Not great in arena but there isn't anything quite like an overzealous rogue killing themselves against your shield in the BGs.
Prot AoE has always struck me as a sort of sadism spec, your enemies kill themselves, its their fault for attacking you so quickly and standing in the consecration, while taking 500+ damage from every blocked attack.
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9-02-2008 @ 1:06PM
Surtr said...
Check out tankspot (http://tankspot.com/) - they're doing some testing and playing with shield slam, and seeing crits of 9-12k, self-buffs only! Even in Wrath, that should be a huge improvement to protection spec solo'ing in non-fury gear.
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9-02-2008 @ 1:09PM
Reric said...
I would like them to explore adding somethind to shields for shaman. Right now it just seems like we use shields simply because we can, they don't really add anything to us. It would be interesting if they did something like converting shield value or block value to an increase of our elemental shields. Heck make it a talent and replace Restorative Totems.
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9-02-2008 @ 1:56PM
Saelorn said...
It would be nice if they want back to shamans being able to tank normal instances, with increased threat from rockbiter, but it's not going to happen. The shaman's shield is a relic of a bygone era.
9-02-2008 @ 1:22PM
wude said...
I rock Shield Slam on my prot warrior for solo grinding. Its pretty fun actually, and adds considerably to the damage potential of my silly 9foot tall horned meat shield.
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9-02-2008 @ 1:25PM
dan said...
Zotiko said...
However, I think I may have actually just described the DK....
except for their lack of shields. :P
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9-02-2008 @ 2:28PM
Zotiko said...
I was shooting for a more overarching class mechanic, but since the article is about shields, I concur.
9-02-2008 @ 1:39PM
MechChef said...
You guys get shield spikes. What else do you want? :D
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9-02-2008 @ 1:47PM
Smurk said...
"Watch how Legolas uses his shield -- he isn't cowering behind it -- he's surfing down staircases with it."
Shields = hunter gear
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9-02-2008 @ 1:58PM
Zali said...
Just getting my prot warrior up to speed, by finally getting uncrit/uncrushable, so she's mostly in quest blues and some crafted and rep purples. As prot spec, I just don't put out ANY damage at all. In fact, without shield slam I would never do ANY damage. Sure, I love devestate, but if I want to see a four digit hit, it will be with my shield, not my sword.
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9-02-2008 @ 2:10PM
Rex said...
Whoever thinks they can get an idea about realistic sword and shield combat from the movie 300 is ridiculous...
If a Spartan swung his shield around like those guys did in that movie they would immediately be toast.
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9-03-2008 @ 7:15AM
CrustyBob said...
Luckily, neither warcraft nor 300 is intended to be realistic. They are supposed to be over the top, visually impressive representations of fighting. Otherwise known as cool!