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Thunderstorm FTW!

btw, heres a link to a recent comment from Tigole about the pre-wrath patch:

http://www.wowblues.com/us/which-classes-are-done-9244876102.html

"None of the classes are done. They are still being iterated on. 3.0 will be on the PTR's soon. There is still a lot of testing before 3.0 would go live to public servers.
If you look back at past patches, we've had patches on the PTR for over 2 months before."

So, may be not as soon as we might have been hoping?

In the coming weeks doesn't make me feel confident, actually.

How much is NYI? And Shaman are quietly waiting for their stuff to actually work. We can't give any feedback on the whole thing since all they decided to add was new ranks of heals and elemental damage spells.

They seriously need to fix our trees to get rid of unneeded bloat. There's a difference between having too many choices and having to spend 5 talent points at the 35+ talent level to get what a DK gets for 2 at the 25+ level.
(Improved Icy Talons vs Unleashed Rage)

We also are seeing a lot of mail with MP/5 all over it and no crit. So it is worthless for elemental and not taking advantage of the new stuff for resto. It's like one team decided to make everything work with elemental gear in the talent trees and the itemization team decided all spellcaster shaman should be resto. Not smart at all.

Heck, how can you comment on a 51pt talent when it has not been made to work right?

In the coming weeks should make you feel confident.

Blizzard's timelines are very similar to those in the Wrath of Khan. When Blizzard says something will take days, you can expect it to take weeks. We won't be seeing a PTR patch for at least a month, which is plenty of time for Blizzard to finish their extensive talent reviews in the beta.

They're telling us it's coming now because they've probably committed to it and started work on it now.

Warhammer scaled down a lot of its features in an effort to be released early. I have a strong feeling it'll blow. Besides, it's not out for Macs, so that's a huge minus for me right there.

Zach, I tend to agree with you. Too many games get rushed out the door - if you want to play in WoW's territory, you can't rush. When I heard they were making cuts to get the game done sooner, I heard a distant dirge for Warhammer.

Look at Age of Conan - a cool concept, nice graphics, but the game isn't done! When you foist a stinking pile of bugs and incomplete content on players, they'll go right back to the one place they know will always offer quality.

Just what do you hope to achieve by posting this? Anyone who would agree probably is, and those of us who have no intention of switching just get more annoyed. You're not convincing anyone.

PS. It looks better because it borrowed a lot from WoW!

Exactly, what many people miss is that Warhammer and other MMOs aren't competing with beta WoW, they're competing with current WoW.

To make more than a passably successful MMO you need to spend *more* time in development than other games. Otherwise players will balk at the bugs/lack of feature/lack of polish after the trial/initial sale and you lose subscription revenue.

I *hope* Warhammer doesn't make that mistake simply because it'd be nice to have a break from the endless line of failed MMOs.

Zach, I'm frankly enjoying Mythic's "fuck the students" tactic toward the WAR release. Between a release date nearly a month *after* schools begin, failing to address the Mac audience, and reducing features etc. to rush it out the door for the (really, really stupid) release date, I doubt WAR will get even a quarter the traction that its fanboys think it will.

"PS. It looks better because it borrowed a lot from WoW!"

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Guards, swap him. Vewy woughly!

That joke is so passé these days, just because everyone knows that Warcraft completely ripped off its appearance from Warhammer art/figurines doesn't mean it's funny or clever to claim that the reverse is true for the bazillionth time. It's no different than a Chuck Norris joke, and thus really very imbecilic.

I'm all for being funny but seriously... try harder.

If you have a lvl 55 toon (or higher) it simply "unlocks" the ability to make a new toon as a DK

They fixed that last beta patch.