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Silly Warriors, DPSing is for Hunters, Locks, Mages, and Rogues!

Just keep tanking for us and we'll all be happy. :P

No love for warriors!?!??! What about the enhance shamans that give you more AP (Strength of Earth and Unleashed Rage), Crit (Grace of Air) and swings with extra AP (Windfury obviously twisted with GoA).??? Plus we doo some substantial dps of our own (put many a lock to shame on RoS as enh shaman)

You guys would be nothing without us

Ain't there a phase in RoS where casting a spell causes some nasty feedback damage?

Bit of a setback for casters if so.

Felspawn's Schramm-hate-meter seems to be working full steam. Too bad his sarcasm meter is failing.

It's itemised for ret paladins hordeside - cataclysm's edge is the equivalent for arms warriors and alliance paladins. Not to say it isn't better; but that's because of it's level, not its itemisation.

I'm not sure about Cataclysm's Edge being better itemized than Torch of the Damned for Alliance.

CE has a 3.5 speed.

TotD has a 3.8 speed (and a higher damage range than CE). The haste on TotD drops it to a 3.7.

I could be wrong about this though (I play a BE, and a Prot one at that.)

Blackcat,

Weaponspeed does not affect how manytimes SoC will proc. What your looking for as an Alliance Ret Pally is the weapon with the highest top end damage to make the best use of Seal of Command and Crusader Strike.

Slow weapons generally have the highest top end damage, although th sword that drops of Kil'Jaeden is faster than this it's top end damage is similar or higher, making it better.

Adding onto my point, Kil'jaeden's sword would better a hell of a lot more powerful if it was 3.80 speed, but it would likely be so powerful that you'd see all the top arena teams wanting it for there Warriors.

Which would be interesting. 20k gold for a bear. How much for this awesomesauce sword?

Kanuris:

"Weaponspeed does not affect how manytimes SoC will proc."

Yes and no.

SoC is PPM. It takes the weapons speed and the PPM rate and calculates a % chance per hit based on the average # of hits to get the PPM rate. Normally this would mean the weapon speed is unimportant.

Crusader Strike does not get added into this and uses this same rate. The result is that every 6 seconds you are getting an extra chance to proc SoC. The slower the weapon is, the higher % chance that SoC will have during Crusader Strike. It effectively increases the PPM rate more if the weapon is slower.

So slower weapons favor SoC just because of Crusader Strike.

Angus,

Whilst that may be the case, the fact is that SoC will almost always go off 7 times in a minute. Slower, harder hitting attacks will gain more benefit of the extra damage of the proc, and Crusader Strike will do more damge by itself.

Slow hard hitting weapon choices are nothing to do with proc-rate, just maximising damage output.

If that was the case, warriors wouldn't care which hand they put executioner on.

Instant attacks favor slow weapons for 2 reasons.
More damage per hit
PPM procs are increased.

That was probably the S3 mace that uses the same model.