Although the original spirit shards were basically only marginally useful during levelling and early level 70, if that sort of mechanic is scaled up to all dungeons it would make it quite interesting. I hope it will be on a similarly long-ish lockout though, to give the poor Horde on our realm a chance of spirit shards too.

"Really trying to allow dungeon quests to have interesting goals"

That would be one of my main gripes with TBC instances. Especially the higher level instances seem to have very little in the way of lore and quests (Arcatraz? Botanica?). Especially the raid instances seem to be somewhat lacking in actual quests, except for Black Temple and Sunwell. Zul'Aman's lore is frankly quite terrible (random neutral Indiana Jones factions aren't very convincing), and SSC is a bit odd in that there's the whole of Zangarmarsh that sort of builds up to it, but in the end it all remained quite unclear to me.

This may be leaked info, I can't remember. So read at your own risk.

But how I understand it lake Wintergrasp will constantly be giving the loser an advantage and those advantages will become bigger and bigger the longer a faction can't take over the keep at Winterspring.

For this reason, I'd prefer the battles to take place more quickly then in the Bone Wastes. Rarely, if ever, can I participate in that because it happens so often. However if the Winterspring event happened say, every hour (with warnings going out Northrend wide as to when it will be up again?) I imagine many more people could get in on the action.

With mounting advantages to the losing team this would probably also ensure that Winterspring is held at least a few times a day even for the most outnumbered faction.

WTB working stream, /sigh

Actually, it's more like watching football with that loud-mouth, racist coach on the sideline. He may get his team to win, but goddang it is he annoying.

yeah that really stood out imo. they should get this out before the expansion. been to lazy to go run tk instances for rep ;p one thing im interested in though is will this apply to raids as well?

Yeah, great idea, as long as I have a Tabard bag with infinite slots like my keyring. No way am I carrying around a dozen new tabards just to get faction rep.

There is something called a bank.

Anyway Oculus and CoT Strat sounds great. Don't know about Halls of stone tough :S

I would be happy with that even now.

Lower City can bite my beefy butt. Auchindoun was designed by a sadist with a bad attitude. The most horribly designed instances for their rep, with some almost impossible to do bosses for certain group make ups, and horrible add mechanics.


About the only rep I have gotten with them in a year has been from the orphan quests.

I'm exalted with everybody else.

Rep tabards sounds like a good idea to me as well.

Heilig: Agree it needs to come with tabard bags.

Gameleon: Yea, heard of banks but if a whole new set of items is introduced they need to come with a storage system.

2 Hellfire Instances - 0 70 Instances
3 Coilfang Instances - 1 70 Instance
4 Terrorkar Instances - 1 70 Instance
3 Netherstorm Instances 3 70 Instances
= 5 BC 70 Instances
= 7 BC Leveling Instances

vs. 8 WOTLK Leveling Instances and 4 80 Instances

12 heroics vs 12 heroics... sounds the same to me...Zoidberg.

2 Hellfire Instances - 0 70 Instances

Shattered Halls?

Caverns of Time: 0 70 instances 2 Leveling Instances.

So add 3 to your count for TBC heroics.