Warlocks don't NEED a sheep. Not when they have two seperate fear mechanics, a pet cc, silence and the ability to drain-tank.

all of which are borderline useless and increasing the wipe potential in instances

The ability to drain-tank increases wipe chance?

no, just as it isn't a cc. draintanking and binding a mob only works in an instance when vastly overgeared. now stop nitpicking. fear can pull ads, when doing the curse pingpong you increase the chance of a resist and can't DPS during the whole time. Seduce is channeled and a mob will usually be upon the demon before it is recast. As I said, borderline useless.

In PvE yes. In PvP chain fearing is rather nice. If you want every class to be so homogenised as to have a seperate PvP and PvE CC, then maybe we could have a pet, infinite mana, heals, and self-rez. Like you.

I did not write about nor do I care about PvP

Right, I'm going to stop now because I've just realised that I'm competing with a warlock for the "most undervalued class in PvE" award, and that mages won it about five months ago. Trophy time!

glad you finally realize that the average instance group includes a mage as a mandatory member for damage and cc. to the point where many magisters hero groups will even prefer two mages.

I've simultaneously CCed three mobs in an instance by myself, as a warlock. True I wasn't DPSing, but three is still a lot. I can easily CC one or two and DPS perfectly well, however. So...learn2play?

given that fear can only be cast on a single target at a time, seduce requires a pet not commonly used in instances and banish requires a mob type still rather rare in instances compared to sheepable enemies I would like to see you do that regularly.

beyond that as you said yourself, you dealt no damage. what good are you in an instance if you can only DPS or do damage? :D

should have read "can only DPS or CC"

you're getting a blink too, anyone see a pattern?...where's mages fear...

This fact mages aren't getting more than a hand full of buffed up damage spells and a few new 51 pt talents that will most likely worthless(see slow). Its little wonder they had nothing to say about mages because as we are now without major changes to the class there really not much more than can be done. We aren't ever going to heal or tank, we have a single buff while nice is starting to have scaling issues. All we have is our CC, our water, and our DPS. And while those things are great it seems like we have changed little in the in the 3 years i've been playing a mage. Maybe that a testament to a well balanced class I do enjoy it. But when all the neighbor kids are getting shinny new bikes and your still riding your older brothers hand me down. Regardless of how well it still rides you want a shinny new bike too. That where I think mages are at.

We wants something really cool to say wow that why I want a mage in my party or raid. If deathknights are "epic but equal" I want to feel "equal but epic"

I doubt we'll be doing more damage in any other area than our AoE spells. Kings of AoE? Then help us survive regicide.

@K20. So very true. Cavaliers ho!