I don't know if people realize but we are going to be able to use Windfury with another weapon buff see as it is no longer a weapon buff rather a buff.

It's far too early to say that Windfury will stack with a sharpening stone or any other temporary buff. It would certainly be nice to not have to remind rogues that they need to get rid of main hand poison to benefit from windfury totem, but just moving the buff to a different class doesn't mean Blizzard won't add new anti-stacking options.

doesn't it seem that making the totem buffs raidwide might actually affect the shaman's viability for raids? What I mean, is that my raid team has 2 elemental shaman, for the caster dps. Now, we only need one, which will leave one of the shaman out in the cold, since now, we don't need him, and it would be better to have a warlock or mage for the dps increase.

Well, I suppose that depends on DPS and by 80, a lot of Raid Groups will probably be reset for one reason or another. As for multiple shammies to one raid, they could use alternate totems depending on each element, so for example, for air, one shammy can use wrath of air to buff casters, whilst another uses windfury to buff melee, and just keep those up throughout the raid.

You see 2 shamans going down to 1. I see 8 totems that can help the Entire Raid. :D

I see Hex as exactly like the Paladin's Hammer of Justice, apart from having a cast time and having a slightly longer duration (which means a lifetime in PvP).

So yeah, it's something that's been long needed by Shamans in PvP.

The CC issue was really more of a PvP complaint.

That doesn't mean that like all things meant for PvP (or vice versa) can't be used now and than in PvE, but this is put there as an arena gripe since shamans will be the last class to obtain a CC

How the hell is this an emergency spell? If the mob or "player" can move on there own they will be able to follow you and just be right there ready to attack the second the spell wears off. Emergency in what way? We were asking for a ummm combat stun type spell. This in no way will enable us to get "away". Which is what was being asked for, more then CC. CC yes is very nice but this CC is not an emergency spell.

I see the Hex as a spell we will use to kite mobs in PVE and to allow us to heal our selves in PVP. yes yes it has CC abilities in that that player/Mob is taken out of the fight for the duration, and I can see some more uses, but as an emergency spell not at all.

Now I wonder will we Paladins get raid wide auras...

Shamans already have a 10-yard totem range increasing talent..

Untalented range is 20 yards. :P

/facepalm

You sir have no concept of how the game mechanics work do you?

That's CC along the same lines as "Die and Ahnk" is an aggro dumb.

That should say dump.

What's the point of Hex exactly? the situation stated above of "getting something off of a healer", any method i mentioned would probably work. If something is going to a healer chances are it's a multiple tanking situation with a non-paladin tank. The tank didn't build appropriate agro on one of the mobs, and the mob goes to the healer. Anyone who wouldn't use a method mentioned before deserves to have their healer die.

Just as a rogue should blind, a shaman should hex. But both of those methods are purely a temporary stay of execution and not a real CC. That being said parts of my comment were purely sarcastic, you sir have no concept of how sarcasm works do you?

i like him- he must be the huntard that starts attacking my EE out of panic in AB