
What do you guys think? What's funnest to level? What makes the best tank for heroics/early raiding? Which one should I drag out of Stranglethorn, kicking and screaming, ultimately into Outland and beyond?




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6-02-2008 @ 11:19AM
Eliah Hecht said...
The person who writes "ur" wants to criticize my use of the word "funnest"? Amusing.
6-02-2008 @ 12:21PM
Zali said...
And is it really that hard to hit the shift key at the begining of a sentence? What ever happened to capital letters? I can understand if you are texting from a cell phone, but most people posting here are at a computer. How hard is it to type out "because" instead of "cos?"
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6-02-2008 @ 1:24PM
PeeWee said...
Whatever floats your boat, mate.
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6-02-2008 @ 1:40PM
DavidC said...
Pally Tanks are OP'd for 5 / 10 man runs. Period. Heroic's, once geared, are likewise extremely easy once you get block value up over 500.
Druids are likewise OP'd for most 5/10 man content. Swipe is great for multiple targets.
Prot Warriors are the best at single target threat generation, but only if you gear appropriately. Or more important, down rank your gear for the fights.
I don't have a druid tank, but having a warrior tank and a pally tank, I enjoy the pally tank more cause it's more thinking and less mashing. The warrior tank is spamming keys constantly. The pally tank I am timing my aggro generating abilities.
Why? On bosses, as a warrior you are trying to burn your rage (as a full bar is wasted rage). As a pally, your not trying to burn excess rage off, you just tring to time your CD's to not miss a beat.
What I like about the pally, is that when I am mana starved, I can drop a pot. On the Warrior, when I am rage starved ... well ... I sit down and take a bigger hit. (don't even talk about rage potions being the equiv of mana, it's just not even in the same ball park).
So, to the OP, it's more about play style. I never see a group that says: Ugh, a pally tank :-( ... it's more like: Pally Tank? this will be easy mode!
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6-02-2008 @ 2:26PM
ackthbbft said...
Survivadin (sometimes called "porcupine") build is incredibly fun and powerful. The more stuff you got beating on you, the more effective you are. Sure, once you get into raid-level bosses, a Protection Warrior will be better, but until then nothing beats Protection Pallies, in my experience. Leveling as a Survivadin is easier than a Protection Warrior, as well, since you can pull 10 mobs at a time and still come out near max health and mana. AOE tanking FTW!!
Start out as Retribution, then at 35 switch to Protection and enjoy!
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6-02-2008 @ 2:37PM
Kromzul said...
At present, warriors are the most difficult class to tank with, with the poorest AoE threat generation and a somewhat peculiar threat scaling model (i.e. not as much return from attack power as druids, and not as much return from spell damage as paladins).
However, I think it's quite fair to say that both druids and warriors will be getting some revision to their AoE threat capabilities, given how comparatively powerful paladins are in that department. Paladin tanks can hold aggro against full-on AoE damage, while warriors and druids can often barely hold aggro off of healers even under optimal circumstances. I can't imagine that Blizzard considers this to be an agreeable state of affairs. There's even some evidence that they'll be changing some long-standing aspects of NPC damage, like crushing blows.
So with inevitable changes to game mechanics on the horizon, I'd say it's pretty tough to make a decision on what's the best tanking class to start at this point in time.
Based on existing mechanics, I think druids are a great choice. The hybrid aspect is really starting to come into its own, offering a lot of flexibility between doing damage and tanking even in the same gearset. In fact, the real issue they face is that their itemization is so haphazard, either resulting in difficulty of getting appropriate tanking items, or in poor allocation of stats on those tanking items.
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6-02-2008 @ 2:40PM
Sundae said...
Paladin for early raiding and levelling.
Warrior if you're tough.
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6-02-2008 @ 2:41PM
Urthona said...
Heraclea makes an excellent point.
I love my tankadin. Everytime I tank it's like throwing a party and everyone's invited.
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6-02-2008 @ 3:56PM
zhong_chu said...
My main is a Feral Tank and I would like to talk about some of the cons of feral tanking.
Scaling: Once feral tanks reach the armor cap, uncritable. The only scaling left is stam and agil. It gets a bit borning when all you can scale is two stats. Pallies and Wars can still incrase amor, def, stam, parry, block and dodge.
The scaling for druids gets dull very fast when all you try to pump is agility or stam.
Rolls and Gear
***A FERAL druids is stuck between a pimp and a hard place***
Feral druids don’t have the advantage of not worrying about crushing blows. This devastating mechanics is the one reason why druids are never considered for MTing. Because druids can’t tank all THINGS in wow, we are normally viewed as lesser tanks and usually have to convince more pugs/guilds/raids that we are solid tanks. Prot wars and Pallies typically don’t have this problem. As stated above, prot wars and pallies can tank pretty much anything in this game.
Gear issues: There are very little pure feral items in end game raiding. Other than Tier gear (which other class/toon want) feral’s have to consistently defend their reasoning for selecting certain loot that drops. When tank gear drops you will get the few who state “that’s pure tank gear” and when rogue DPS gear drops, you will get the rogues that say “it has no armor or strength on it, its rogue gear”. And feral druids don’t want to look like selfish loot whores, so feral’s have to be cautious about the loot they ask for, unlike prot tanks or rogues.
Most guilds/raids don’t have a clear understanding about druid gear. And some rogue dps gear is really good for tankin, and visa versa, some tank gear is good for dps (neck pieces with stam and +hit). So many druids will fall into the middle by either being considered second for tank or dps gear, behind the pure specs.
I work with a guild that works with my feral spec and gear, but I know other feral druids that are always passed up by prot wars or dps rogues and usually get the hand me downs. This is why so many of my early feral friends have made the switch to resto, because of such great itemizations and gear available to them, without the need to reason why they should win such loot.
That’s just some food for though, for the OP.
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6-02-2008 @ 5:08PM
Ashwin said...
As a person who has a warrior as a main, I say, save yourself the trouble and level a Paladin. It just saves you so much stress and tension on the waves of trash.
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6-02-2008 @ 6:18PM
Dawookie said...
For the record of my previous comment. It appears to have been taken out of context. It was no way saying a pally can not tank just about any boss in the game. as a matter of fact my guild uses one to great effect.
What I meant was that a pally tank excels at 5 man and 10 man level raids. Not that they where limited to them.
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6-02-2008 @ 6:29PM
twh said...
Paladins that MT BT/MH have balls that druids and warriors wish they had.
/flex
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6-02-2008 @ 6:48PM
Lionhearte said...
Druid. Not only are they extremely fun to play during the low levels and even higher levels, but at 70, you can pretty much tank AND dps, therefore you do not have to respec if you got a warrior, and there is no such thing as a dps pally.
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6-02-2008 @ 10:59PM
Turall said...
I guess it depends on what particular tanking needs your guild has. If you need a progression tank, level a warrior, no question.
My main is a prot Paladin in SSC. I MT it, and I love it, but the class does have limitations. for that reason I'm putting together tanking gear for my warrior.
as for the whole Death Knight thing. Death Knights aren't going to be the be-all-end-all of tanks. And the class mechanics might not get along well with all gamers (Blizz themselves have said this). What if you wait for Wrath, roll a DK, and decide you hate it? Now you have to roll a new level 1 warrior/pally/druid, while your friends are invading Northrend.
IMO, pick a warrior or Paladin, and when wrath hits, roll a DK and make your choice as to what style of tanking you prefer.
Personally...I'm going to have three plate-wearing tanks in Northrend.
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6-04-2008 @ 9:19AM
raven said...
I would also go with a druid. I'm in a similar position: holy paladin main with a level 60 druid that I've been trying to find time for. Druids are fairly easy to gear up compared to paladins and warriors, who need *lots* of raid love.
Paladins and Warriors both need pretty good gear to tank, and when not tanking, they're both pretty useless. In contrast, druids tank pretty well with some good BoE and quest rewards, and they can always just go dps-kitty form while a main tank goes to work.
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6-09-2008 @ 6:21AM
Jessierockeron said...
I see your point about the druid thing but pally's and warr's can be far from useless when they aren't tanking. Pally's can where plate when they heal so they don't die as fast and same thing goes for warrs when they dps.
6-09-2008 @ 6:23AM
Jessierockeron said...
Where = wear
6-05-2008 @ 2:38PM
wolfeye said...
For all those that voted druid and paladin I only have to tell you this: Let's see you great paladins and druids tanking Illidan!! Two words : Crushing blow !! (results you just lvl-ed a dumb char 4 tanking !)
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6-09-2008 @ 6:18AM
Jessierockeron said...
If you want the ease of tanking plenty of mobs, choose roll paladin.
If you want to avoid getting hit, roll a warrior.
If you want high health and armour (yes, I spell armour with a U) roll a druid.
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