One of the larger complaints about the ability to transfer servers is the lack of PvE to PvP transfers. You can transfer your character from a PvP server to a PvE server, but not the other way around. Some folks see this as discriminating against the PvP servers, while others see it as a good thing.Blizzard is firmly on the side of those that see it as good. In a recent blue post Bornakk has came out and said that while the option is there, they have no plans to allow it. Apparently this has "been on the table" for the past two years.
Personally, I'm glad they won't be allowing this. The ability to transfer from PvP to PvE makes sense since you won't be disrupting the gearing balance. But think about what would happen if you could transfer from a PvE to a PvP server. Everyone would level their characters on a PvE server, and then transfer them to a PvP server at 70. This would make it nearly impossible to get a group or have any pre-70 game play on the PvP server. I know some of you are going to say that it already is impossible, but it would just become more difficult. So I'm with Blizzard on this one.
What do you think? Is it a good policy, or should Blizzard change their ways?
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4-12-2008 @ 9:04PM
swatltlen said...
How come we can't expect these types of transfers soon when Blizzard has already had performed this type of transfer for people in their "favor".
http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/blizzard-giving-pve-to-pvp-transfers-to-friends/
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4-12-2008 @ 9:16PM
Augger said...
I guess you didn't read the follow up, the one character that was allowed thr transfer was moved back because of the no transfer deal from PvE to PvP. Even though it was an insider they didn't get to keep the transfer , no favorites there at all.
4-12-2008 @ 9:08PM
Havitech said...
"Everyone would level their characters on a PvE server, and then transfer them to a PvP server at 70."
Just like when name changes came out, *everyone* started ninjaing and changing their names. Amirite?
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4-12-2008 @ 9:19PM
voggz said...
i am against this it would be horrible becuase then people could lvl on a pve server "Safely" and then transfer... I think that if you want to pvp on a pvp server you have to level there like the rest of us.. also i heard the reason is that and that the honor points ect is distributed differently on server types
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4-12-2008 @ 9:20PM
Krianna said...
Thank goodness.
The spineless jerks on PVE servers can dang well STAY there, instead of skipping the gankage and coming over for the ganking! (Note: "spineless jerks" refers to the guys who would've been gankers on a PVP server, but didn't have the guts to do so-- not PVE folks in general.)
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4-12-2008 @ 9:27PM
rufwork said...
You're on the money. Absolutely unfair to let them transfer as it's lots easy to level in E and then whack away unearnedly in P.
At the same time, getting from one to the other in Ultima Online -- once they decided it was a good idea to have a land where it was safe for n00bs -- was as simple as walking through a moongate. There were more rewards to be had in the PvP world, however. Upping the rewards on PvP servers might be something for Blizzard to consider.
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4-12-2008 @ 9:29PM
Taalii said...
yeah, actually, i gotta agree..i mean, PVE server, within 4 months and a good guild you can haev t6 and Azzinoth....then xfer to PVP anbd save months of work....needs to stay as is, but an "undo" option would be nice..
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4-13-2008 @ 12:33AM
Fraufrau said...
I actually don't see any advantage one way or another... I have 3 70s on a PvP server and when I leveled my last one (druid) i shunned pvp in order to hit 70 ASAP.
I did so in less than 8 days played and could of been faster if I really pushed it (nothing groundbreaking) but I might as well have been on a PvE server... hit 70 with 0 HKs and very little time wasted being ganked.
Also, does anyone know what kinds of servers guilds like Nihilum and D&T are on? I wouldn't be surprised if some of the guilds at the forefront of PvE progression were from PvP servers.
4-12-2008 @ 9:30PM
R said...
The main reason that PVE->PVP transfers is not fair is because the PVP realm player had to endure the extra pain of leveling a character on a PVP server due to the constant threat of being ganked. This does not occur on a PVE server.
Blizzard tried PVE->PVP xfers once and the (pre-BC) PVE lev 60 transfers spent their whole time ganking lowbies since they never got to do that during their time on the PVE server. There were an extraordinary number of griefing petitions filed.
Mark my words, Blizzard won't do it again.
Simple solution, if you want to play on a PVP realm. Level one up from level 1 like everyone else did on the PVP realm and enjoy being the ganker and gankee.
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4-12-2008 @ 9:32PM
Stephan Mercatoris said...
I personally would be very much for some kind of variation on this server transfer. I have a 70 warrior and a 70 shaman that i leveled and progressed on a PvP server, but transfered to a PvE server for a very very short period of time due to complications in guilds and other things. They're now stuck there and can't be moved back.
I wish that i could move them back, but it looks like luck with PvE to PvP transfers will not change.
I would like to say that i completely agree with the idea of no PvE to PvP transfers as it would definitely be easier to lvl on a PvE server than a PvP server. I just don't see myself as really fitting into that category.
:(
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4-12-2008 @ 9:38PM
Jay said...
Some people (like me) were eager to get in game and start playing on whichever realm was thrown at them. I was thrown on a recommended PVE realm and over time I found out a lot of my friends were on PVP realms.
O HAI ILL JUST TRANSFER :D, o wait
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4-12-2008 @ 9:55PM
Josh said...
I don't see that it really matters either way. PvP servers already have players in crazy enchanted epic gear. On Spinebreaker (where I am) there is a Horde [70%] to Alliance [30%] imbalance, with many of the Horde players in groups with T6 or S3 gear. The way I see it, many Alliance players could correct this imbalance by rolling PvE, then transfering. If you are on a PvP server, what does it matter if you get ganked by a PvP native or a PvE transfer? PvP was meant to be a chaotic cluster where you could die at anytime, wasn't it?
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4-12-2008 @ 10:14PM
Savant said...
First off, I want to say I agree with the principle of not allowing PvE to PvP transfers. I think PvE to PvP should not be allowed because it's not the same game. It's like asking to transfer your progress from one class to another.
However, if it was allowed, then you would have to be on crack to suggest that everyone and his brother would be levelling their toons on a PvE server and then transferring. Would there be a few that would do it? Sure. However, I don't think it would have any real impact at all. There would likely be a rush at the start of those who want to change to a PvP server because they rolled PvE and regret it, but I don't think the majority of people would roll on a PvE, level and then spend $25 bucks to transfer.
So I'm against this, but please folks, let's not be silly and suggest that people would actually spend $25 bucks every time they rolled a new character so they could level it on a PvE realm.
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4-12-2008 @ 10:23PM
ajayen said...
I honestly dont care if it happened or not, I have toons on both PvP and PvE. And all my friends on PvP take pride in their toons, because its a damn pain to lvl on a PvP server, So I think that people like that will still lvl on a PvP server no matter the case of transfers. I dont think PvE should really be priority on a PvP server, I play on a PvP server to PvP, and my toons on the PvE server are for PvE, simple as that.
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4-12-2008 @ 10:29PM
Pzychotix said...
I've leveled 2 70s, and a couple other to 60s. All on PVP servers.
The ONLY place I've ever had trouble with ganking is STV.
World PVP has been dead for a LONG time guys. You're only lying to yourself if you believe it's THAT much harder to level on a PVP server.
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4-13-2008 @ 4:03AM
Minnow said...
Exactly! The only place I was ganked was in Hillsbrad, not even STV. It's really only a small difference in levelling.
4-12-2008 @ 10:47PM
Matthew Rossi said...
I'm fine with no PvE to PvP. I just want no PvP to PvE.
If you want out of the meat grinder, reroll.
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4-12-2008 @ 11:10PM
Jagoex said...
I agree 100%.
PvP players shouldn't get to choose to redirect their gaming emphasis. They chose a PvP realm and should have to reroll if they no longer want that to be the bulk of their gaming -- just as PvEers do.
That's the only way to make the issue a fair one, imho.
http://jagoex.blogspot.com
4-12-2008 @ 11:19PM
Chris Anthony said...
A player with a character on a Normal realm who wants to PVP all the time can do so without transferring.
A player with a character on a PVP realm who wants to /not/ PVP all the time /cannot/ do so without transferring.
This is why Blizzard allows PVP-Normal transfers but not vice-versa.
(Yes, I'm using "Normal" deliberately. There's a reason Blizzard differentiates between "PVP" and "Normal" instead of "PVP" and "PVE" in the server lists.)
4-12-2008 @ 11:01PM
Brad said...
I just don't see it. While I will admit it's easier to level on a PvE server, what would drive this mass of people to transfer to a PvP server that would be so bad?
Would someone pay $25 just to have an easier time preparing to gank people? I doubt it.
Personally, one of my co-workers has a raiding guild on a PvP server in need of some new players. I'd be more than happy to give blizzard my money, however all my 70s are on PvE servers.
I just don't see how it's so bad that they've basically come out and said they'll never allow it.
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