I actually agree....

Especially when it comes to PvP, being able to coordinate 5 characters at once completely eliminates a game dynamic; that is, to be able to get different people to work on the same objective.

Just recently I ran into a multiboxer in Arathi Basin; 4 Elemental Shamans tied together with a Paladin healing the main. They could basically one-shot anything that came near, avoided fears with grounding totems and cleanses from the paladin....

Needless to say, this is NOT fun to play against, and I fail to see what pleasure someone could get in killing people in this way. Short term excitement, perhaps, but I must be missing the long-term fun in this. It's like climbing a mountain by riding a helicopter up.... there's no effort involved in it past the technical know-how required to set up that system.

Still, it's a free world, and to each their own I suppose.

ive nvr actually tried it tho ive always thought multiboxing was kinda neat
and ive always figured that all anyone would hav to say to all those RPers who object to it is that ur toons could all be like psychically linked twins, triplets, quadruplets etc and hav a whole backstory to it

I'm guessing you're on the Ruin battlegroup, Jhestor? I hate facing that jerk... 4 chain lightnings is absurd to deal with.. We petitioned on it being ignorant of the policies, but the GM said there's nothing he can do,. But he did tell us a little secret: figure out which one is the main, and focus fire on him. Once he's dead, it screws up the rest of them. Makes sense, since three are in one place, and the main is in the graveyard. It actually wasn't a problem after we killed him once.

Ummmm Wouldnt 5 people controlling those same toons with vent be even more deadly. Of curse they would (it's been proven)! I find the whole topic rather B-O-R-I-N-G and will be skipping this one.

Jesus Christ, he said "I am", what more you want? I swear, political correctness will one day kill humanity...

I concur with the above sentiment - who are you to say what's right or wrong? Especially when the people who make the game disagree with you?

Life rewards ingenuity, in all things. It IS more efficient and effective to, as someone above said, climb a mountain with a helicopter.

What concerns me is the way some people are downplaying the "software advantage". Multi-boxing is fine, but using third party software is against the TOS, right?

But, what if the software isn't third party? What if I code it myself? Is that ok to use?

He's made it pretty damn obvious that this is his opinion only.

And can you really say that you think the game *was* designed to be played multibox? It's quite obvious. Whether it's right or wrong is another matter.

I personally think it's cheap. But also expensive. Heh.

You misunderstand the meaning of "3rd party".

First party is the devs themselves.
Second party is any development team outside the original devs, but closely related (perhaps owned by the same company).
Third party is any dev outside of those.

Thus, you yourself would count as third party.

@11 -- As per http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5288579356&sid=1&pageNo=1

"Q u o t e:
Semantics issue #2:
Software (such as Keyclone, Octopus, etc) to emulate a keyboard multiboxing solution is, by nature, "3rd party". Is "3rd party software" synonymous with "bot" or "automation"? Are all types of "3rd party software" bannable?
Likewise, hardware, by nature, is "3rd party". What kinds (or uses) of 3rd party hardware are bannable?
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Is it sending an identical signal to all client windows or switching between them to send commands? Not automation.
Is it playing the game for you, or rather, for one of your client windows? Automation.
All hardware is considered neutral as long as its commands and features are not being used to automate gameplay. "

-GM Belfaire

Keep in mind - back when I was doing testing-automation at Intel (for product validation) we used to program Cybex Autoviews (I think the company is called Avocent now) so that one keyboard would control 20 or more machines. Now this what physically wired - the computer, nor any detection mechanism would be able to tell one person was controlling 20-40 or even a thousand machines from one keyboard/mouse.

The software just makes it cheaper - a fully programmable KVM like the Cybex Autoview was worth more than the computers we were testing.

In that same light - if you used testing automation software to automatically click through the tests (which you could easily use on WoW) that would be against the rules.

In normal english:

First party means the original creator, or the subject. "I".

Second party means the object, or the target of the message. "You".

Third party means another group who is neither of the above. "He, she, they".

Thus third party creations generally referred to things which were made not by the original manufacturer of the item, nor by the purchaser of the product, but an unassociated THIRD party.

Only videogame development has attempted to redefine these terms in a somwhat nonsensical way.

Shigan5 said...

"And yes he might be able to one shot things but he worked for it. Can you imagine what its like to level 5 characters at the same time? Drop quests are horrid: he has to alt tab through 5 wow windows to pickup items. Quests where you have to gather 10 of something he has to gather 50 of.

What about when he dies? Corpse runs take forever for him.
The amount of self coordination and effort that this guy has put into this. More than you guys will ever know when you level 1 character."

O rly? So all those low lvl 5-boxers that I've gank camped must have been really pissed off. I kill off the hopes and dreams of 5 boxers at a low lvl, woot!

Yup, it's piss-easy. That's why he got them all to rank 13 in the old PVP-system. By being easy to kill.

GG