We're down to the Final Four and have arrived at the most anticipated fight in the series. Tonight, Illidan Stormrage steps into an Arena with the old god C'thun. And the one that steps out alive, will move on to the final match against the Naxxramas end boss, Kel'thuzad. Want to learn more about these two bosses and voice your opinion on who would win in a fight? Keep reading.
- Shear reduces the health of his main target by 60%
- Illidan will occasionally jump into the air and land in a patch of highly damaging blue flame
- Illidan will randomly target players to cast a parasites debuff on, which does shadow damage over time and then summons two parasites to attack the target
- Draw soul does heavy fire damage to targets in front of Illidan and heals Illidan
- Illidan will summon two massive fire elementals, the Flames of Azzinoth
- Every 30 seconds, Illidan will sweep an eye beam across the platform, doing heavy fire damage and leaving a trail of damaging fire behind it
- Illidan shoots fireballs that do splash damage
- Dark Barrage does heavy shadow damage to a random target, though it's rarely cast
For phase 4 (a quick phase, at 30 seconds long), Illidan will unleash the demon within. He turns into a black demon with powerful abilities, but is unable to move. During this phase, he'll cast:
- Shadow blast, a high damage shadow attack with splash damage
- Flame burst, an AoE fire-based DoT that does splash damage
- Aura of dread does a high amount of shadow damage over time as well as increasing the damage taken by shadow spells (stacks)
- Maiev Shadowsong joins the fight -- and though we usually don't consider adds for fights, we're keeping Maiev in this fight because Illidan is just incredibly powerful. (And Maiev would be hunting him down whether he was in the Black Temple or not.)
- Illidan can Enrage, randomly.
- Eye Beam: A nature damage attack that targets a single player, but jumps from the first player to subsequent players in range with increasing damage each jump.
- Dark Glare: An incredibly high damage (read: no player could survive it) shadow attack that sweeps 180 degrees across the room.
- Eye Tentacles: These tentacles spawn at intervals throughout the fight. Individually, they have low health, but they spawn in groups and do a Mind Flay-type spell. (With generally meaner "giant" versions spawning in phase two.)
- Claw Tentacles: These tentacles also spawn at intervals throughout the fight and have low health. However, unlike the Eye Tentacles, these do melee damage. (With generally meaner "giant versions spawning in phase two.)
- Stomach of C'Thun: In phase two, tentacles will swallow players and send them to C'Thun's stomach. As you might imagine, it's not a friendly place, and every few seconds damaging debuffs will stack on anyone inside. There's an easy exit from the stomach, but killing Flesh Tentacles inside the stomach weakens C'Thun, allowing him to be hurt and killed -- so you might want to stick around.
Before you cast your vote below, a reminder: we're considering these two bosses with approximately equal health and approximately equal damage output capabilities. We aren't making this into a math equation of who's got more health than who, so when you cast your vote, cast it on fighting style, not highest level. You're welcome to factor the lore of each character into the equation.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
3-30-2008 @ 9:09PM
Nyttyn said...
First.
And illidan would win because of shear ALONE.
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3-30-2008 @ 9:27PM
Erika said...
I also think that his random enrage would cause more death and chaos.
3-30-2008 @ 9:14PM
Dan said...
well as Illidan is pure baddass, he gets my vote.
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3-30-2008 @ 9:15PM
Claver said...
It took several titans to just imprison C'Thun, i don't think even illidan can match the power of several titans.
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3-30-2008 @ 9:23PM
Carrie said...
But 40 lowly mortals in epix can :P
3-31-2008 @ 3:29PM
Killah said...
Wrong Carrie. What you see here, is just the Eye and the Stomach of C'thun. HIS EYE, for Christ's sake!
So no, this is not the "full" C'thun, it's just a part of him.
The point stands valid, and I think C'thun will have a good chance at tanking down Illidan.
4-01-2008 @ 3:49AM
Temrak said...
Well.. the test isnt the real deal, its just the game-version of the old lore.. as stated in the text:
" C'Thun is the final boss in Ahn'Qiraj, an old god considered to be one of the most difficult pre-Burning Crusade encounters. "
So the point made by Claver isnt valid in this test, this is a test of bosses in the game and if they in their current state would meet in a fight.
3-30-2008 @ 9:16PM
Phohammar said...
completely neglecting sheer, illidan would win because of his rapid rate of attack and much higher mobility
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3-30-2008 @ 11:20PM
Tyler said...
Anything has higher mobility than C'thun.
3-30-2008 @ 9:21PM
Balasan said...
Green eye beam lazerz vs blue eye beam lazerz. Take your pick.
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3-30-2008 @ 9:31PM
Rashi said...
Illidan Shears, end phase 1.
Illidan gets pwned by lazor. Enter Maiev. Illidan gets eaten, maiev pokes things outside, illidan enrages inside and kills.
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3-30-2008 @ 9:38PM
CursedSeishi said...
I think this is pretty easy to predict, but ill tell you wins and why.
Fight starts out with Illidan running in and shearing C'thun because he wants to take him down fast and efficiently. now, wether or not Shear works, it does not matter much.
Cthun will start spawning his tendrils, who die with ease from Illidans parasite debuff, the ones not killed are destroyed easily when he jumps into the air and slams downwards, or when he draws soul, ensuring that he'll remain in top condition while Cthun is wittled down by the amassed parasites. They eyebeam, even with it jumping through the parasites and illidan, is quickly negated by his draw soul as well.
Phase two for Cthun starts, as he swallows Illidan, as the stacked debuff increases, it forces Illidan into his stage two form. Through a combination of fireballs and Eyebeams, the immoble inner tendrils are quickly destroyed as he bursts free.
With the stronger versions of the tendrils out, Illidan resorts to the fragmented flames of Azzinoth to take them out while he pounds away at the weakened Cthul.
Near the end of the fight, Illidan will be forced into Phase three (If shear doesnt work, he'll be forced into this one earlier, perhaps a few seconds after escaping his stomache.
Through agonizing flames attack, Illidan quickly finishes Cthun off without resorting to his demon-form.
If shear didnt work, he'd resort to his Demonic form, and through his stackable +shadowdamage debuffs and shadow attacks, utterly destroys Cthun.
Maiev Shadowsong runs in a little too late, and while Illidan just walks away to see who next is unprepared, Maiev, though depressed and angered about not catching him in time, walks off with the epic loot that Cthun possessed, as Illidan saw it as just a bunch of greys, and no vendor would want to deal with him.
So yeah, Illidan for the win.
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3-30-2008 @ 9:41PM
Calaana said...
Illidan gets swallowed. C'thun gets heart burn. Fire melts ice, illidan wins the championship.
Or illidan wins because of the fan boys that think he should 'cause he's "badass" and don't apply any logic.
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3-30-2008 @ 10:20PM
Deusmortis said...
Shear is the bane of this competition. We've seen the abilities of other bosses negated, because their opponent didn't have an effective counter, but shear remains, even though no boss has shield block.
Even without it, however, Illidan will win this one. He is agile and mobile, able to easily dodge C'thun's beams. Flames and parasites devastate the tentacles. The high AoE damage from the Flames of Azzinoth char C'thun's guts until he's a ashen husk, and Illidan walks out to easily finish him off unarmed, with only a few eye beams and fireballs.
No contest.
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3-30-2008 @ 10:36PM
tph said...
Excuse me C'Thun, but "You are not Prepared!"
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3-30-2008 @ 10:37PM
Oddish said...
Old god > posessed night elf
illidan has no chance
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3-31-2008 @ 3:42AM
bdew said...
This doesnt realy work because
40 epix wearing nubz > old god
Anyway Illidan won't even get to him, as the twin emps are still bugged ;)
Unless he model hacks that is
3-31-2008 @ 2:45PM
Michael said...
Never mind the fact that the boss itself is about 50X more difficult than the welfare legendary Stormrage. C'Thun, 4 Horsemen, and Viscidus are all much more challenging than anything in BT. With just 1 person to focus on, tentacles swarm Illidan and C'Thun zaps the hell out of him with some dark glare.
3-31-2008 @ 2:54PM
ScorchHellfire said...
how can anyone say that c'thun would win seeing how as he only was a tier 2 boss... illidan is tier 6... c'thun wasnt even the final dungeon boss for vanilla wow... techinically illidan isnt either but sunwell isnt much higher...
3-30-2008 @ 10:42PM
Green Armadillo said...
Illidan has the mobility to avoid dark glare and is carrying around the highest DPS melee weapons in the game. If C'Thun is stupid enough to swallow him, and we appear to be stipulating that he is, those stomach tentacles are going to be toast before Illidan even takes significant damage. You could take away Shear and Illidan would STILL have the easy win.
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