It seems that cows everywhere are logging in to find that their weapons are roughly 50% smaller than they were previously. Should you take your weapon out to get a better look at it, you'll get to watch it grow back to pre-patch size.
Unfortunately, this is not a bug. Hortus has confirmed that it was an intentional change because certain weapons would clip the ground while sheathed.
While the Tauren have been getting some support on the forums, some players seem unsure of why this is such a big issue. Let's take a deeper look into why players are upset, including the fact that cows will seemingly be the brunt of even more jokes. Not innocent jokes either; not like "steak! It's what's for dinner!"First of all, it seems important to point out that many of the weapons that were clipping the ground while sheathed, may continue to do so while unsheathed anyway. It seems that Blizzard should either reduce the weapon sizes permanently and in all states, or revert back to allowing the occasional clip.
Of course, I don't think that any Tauren wants to see his or her hard-earned epics permanently shrunken. People will spend months and even years acquiring certain gear, and part of the appeal is that you then look extremely formidable. Giant glowing swords taller than you are? Bring them on!
Aside from the fact that it is understandable that the point of giant epic swords is partly in the fact that they are giant, much of the weaponry that is not ridiculously over-sized to begin with seems to now appear ridiculously under-sized. I know they're just cows, but they need their dignity too!
Not to mention that part of the appeal of the Tauren race in the first place is size. The mounts are larger, the weapons are larger, the character is larger. Many warriors choose the Tauren race in part because of their size. I wouldn't personally want to have what appealed to me about my character's race start to change.
Mino pointed out that size is indeed a valid racial appeal. Many people enjoy Gnomes because of their size, the different perspective, and the unique gameplay experiences associated with rolling a Gnome (not literally, although I do hear that is a common pass-time for Tauren). Size does matter.
Boven also had a very valid point about consistency. Yes, sometimes graphics do strange things like clip through tails, or the ground. My Orc's axes clip through my mount; but I don't want them to be tiny. Sometimes, there's a little thing called "willing suspension of disbelief."
Boven:
Really. Isn't it enough that we accept the fact that a 9+ foot tall bipedal bull can somehow get sapped and backstabbed by a 2 foot tall gnome? or that when we hit said gnome, it doesn't go flying over the horizon? C'mon guys. Give us our real weapons back.
Actually, as Blizzard is attempting to make their graphics make more sense, they have merely created a new inconsistency. Many players point out that Elves with the same weapons have a larger model when sheathed. Considering the size difference between a Night or Blood Elf and a Tauren, the result does look pretty weird. In many cases, the weapons don't even look proportionate to the Tauren character itself.
I would also join several of the forum-goers in asking a simple question. Why on earth did something like this get addressed, while there are things that are more important that need fixing? While Tauren weaponry will now arguably look more realistic by not traveling through the floor in 50% of gameplay, Karthun points out that it might have been more useful if Blizzard had fixed the long-tolerated feral druid cat range bug instead.
Of course, if Blizzard is intent on fixing animation issues, then I have a bone to pick with the riding Talbuks. It seems as though, when I press space bar to rear my mount up, my mount's head smashes straight back, through my face, and let's me see through the front of its neck. This is, in fact, the only time my character can see anything, because he is normally stuck looking at the back of its head.
Come to think about it, on many mounts, characters don't move. They seem static in the air while their mounts bounce around happily. I digress.
It is obviously more important that the majority of Tauren now feel silly and indeed, ashamed. That might sound like an over-reaction, but as a male Orc, I can relate. Back when Orc shoulders suddenly shrank, I at first took the jokes with grace and silently felt disappointed. You stare at your character more than you realize. As time progressed, and the known bug had not been fixed, I actually did feel less powerful. Emasculated. I'm not even a male in real life. I don't know how I would have felt had the decrease in shoulder size been deliberate.
There's another consistency issue, as mentioned above. It does not make sense for weapons to be one size while you are toting them, and magically grow by 50% when pulled out. Tauren are not Santa Claus. The overarching issue that I see is what is making me squirm regarding my choice of verbs and adjectives.
How long will it be before people are making jokes about shrinkage, sheathing, rising to the occasion, and so on? More than normal, I mean. I'm just not sure, despite theories that WoW is about, erm, "ego", that most Tauren intended for the concept to play out so literally.
Have you been personally affected by this change? Are you content with it, or are you displeased? Have you been experiencing different emotions about your character, or been subject to teasing? Is this a fair change, that is better than the alternative, or do you disagree with it?
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
3-27-2008 @ 8:48AM
Gh3tt0 Child said...
buddy ripped.
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3-27-2008 @ 9:09AM
pudds said...
To be honest, I'd prefer that they trimmed down all of the ridiculously oversized weapons. I prefer the look of the tauren on the right's smaller weapon to the over-sized human one on the left.
I can understand the outrage though, I hated it when they shrunk my orc shoulders.
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3-27-2008 @ 9:17AM
Andrige said...
I play a Druid, I don't care all that much if the weapons are downsized... but the inconsistency when you Sheathe and Equip the weapon is more ugly than the clipping.
Why should it spontaneously grow?
I think Taurens could get a bit more in proportion so the downsizing I say; sure, we still have humongous pauldrons and gloves, not to mention stature/physique.
But yeah... as I wrote on my topic in the PTR forum http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3349705341&sid=1, Tauren Male doesn't even breathe while mounted.
It's things like this that could need a proper fix.
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3-27-2008 @ 9:19AM
Arabelli said...
See, my weapon is bigger when sheathed. There's weirdness going on for human females on our weapons. My dagger is now bigger than my arm, and our Glaive rogue is literally smaller than her weapon right now.
Little glitches like this however, intended or not, just make me laugh. The Orc shoulder thing was a little crappy just because it was on the body of the character itself, as it were, but the weapons are almost all too big anyway, I dunno. Clipping the ground looks weird too, and I just suppose I can't see why making a fuss is worth it.
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3-27-2008 @ 9:28AM
BigFire said...
Not really. What happens is that male taurent weapon model somehow got swapped with female human weapon model. When standing next to a female draenei shaman using the same Hammer of Judgement, mine look to be about twice as big.
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3-27-2008 @ 3:45PM
Amanda Miller said...
First of all, I would like to reiterate that this is a permanent and intended change. Secondly, aside from whatever graphical issues may be showing up for human females and other characters, this is a separate (and again, intended) issue. When the weapon is put away, it shrinks, and grows when you pull it out. This does not happen for other classes.
Hortus:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5540035331&pageNo=1&sid=1#1
3-27-2008 @ 9:36AM
gd1107 said...
now if they will only allow tauren to ride a kodo or raptor in UC w/out fear of death from taking the elevator...
that definetly would be a change worth welcoming.
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3-27-2008 @ 9:51AM
Angus said...
No doubt. Heck, I was mad about 2.3 because I couldn't use my broom anymore. That was the ONLY mount I could ride through every doorway in UC, and no elevator kills.
3-27-2008 @ 10:11AM
Grimshod said...
QFT. Add talbuks to that list. A Tauren on a talbuk is a very tall thing. I usually remember to dismount before trying to get on the elevator, but there have been, ahem, mishaps.
3-28-2008 @ 3:20AM
Foxwind said...
It makes me so happy that I'm not the only one who's done this. Multiple times. Oh god. D:
3-27-2008 @ 10:02AM
Thrush said...
Most of the artwork in the game is about over-exaggeration. No way a human could even lift a sword that size, let alone with one hand. So things clip a little, big deal. We can run right through each other at the AH, will they change that too? Let the Taurens have their big weapons!
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3-27-2008 @ 10:12AM
idburns said...
I immediately noticed this on my three main alliance characters on patch night, my female human, male human and mail dwarf. All their weapons are much larger now when sheathed. When I hit X to unsheath them they shrink to the original size.
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3-27-2008 @ 10:22AM
nativebrown said...
sorry i can't use the "reply" feature from work.
regarding tauren size and mounts, man i wish blizz could address this somehow.
i got so sick of my kodo not fitting through doors and constantly having to hit dismount to move around in UC, Org and TB that i just said to hell with it and spent the time and money to grind out exalted rep with Org. so i could ride a damn wolf. i could have waited till 60 but it was REALLY buggin' me.
add to that the fact that mounts are far and away my favorite thing in the game and tauren is the most mount restricted race there is and i'm a little bummed.
oh well. my belf lock can ride em' all so i'll start working on my rep soon so i can use whatever mount fits the situation.
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3-27-2008 @ 10:49AM
Sakerin said...
I play a Draenei mage and both my hair and tentacles clip through my Collar of the Aldor (T4 head). It seems to me that if Blizzard was really so concerned about clipping they would make your hair and facial hair conform to the confines of your outfit.
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3-27-2008 @ 10:59AM
Gimmlette said...
It's interesting to talk about pathing problems with weapons being clipped and there are so many other little annoyances. Supposedly one of the patches fixed a bug on the FP out of Booty Bay to Stormwind where you flew through a tree. Nope. Did that on Saturday and still flew through the tree. You stutter a little as the bird hits it but you keep going. Flying into Un'Goro last night, I flew right through the head of one of the devilsaurs. Many, many times, I'll stop to herb and my bear "sits" through the ground. Climbing rocks to get to dreaming glory and and bear's head goes through the rock on which the herb sprouts. I can't ride my talbuk into the bank in SW. I always get stuck in the doorway as the mount itself is too tall. I'd love to see someone try to get a Kodo in there or into the bank in IF.
Boggles my mind that Blizzard considered this a problem that had to be fixed. There will always be visual tweaks needed as one little bit of code reacts with some other bit of code, but how did this affect the actual performance of the game?
Give Tauren back their weapon size. Didn't harm anyone and actually makes them look cool.
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3-27-2008 @ 11:02AM
Liskad said...
It's not just that the weapons shrink on your back. They are now proportionately smaller than they were for any other race. As you may have noticed, most weapons and armor scale with your race. A sword that is your character's height (say, Gorehowl) will be your character's height whether you are a gnome, human, or troll.
Unless, of course, you're a tauren.
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3-27-2008 @ 11:05AM
turkeyspit said...
What about Gnomes? I've seen many a Gnomish Warrior / Rogue walking around with their weapons clipping into the ground.
Honestly, it pains me to think how many game devs / programmers were dedicated to fixing this 'problem', when so many other issues need addressing.
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3-27-2008 @ 12:13PM
rick gregory said...
Yeah, that was my first thought too... my gnome rogue loves his Merciless Glad swords, but they cut DEEP furrows where ever he walks. When he's not killing Tauren, that is.
3-27-2008 @ 11:07AM
Shadow said...
The only reason I selected Tauren way back when I was starting the game was that I wanted to play a druid with some friends that were already playing horde. As my Druid and I have grown over the years Ive found that I like getting mounts. I hate how limited Tauren are on what mounts they can ride. I think their should be some mounts you can only ride if your a big character(Tauren/Dranie/Orc)
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3-27-2008 @ 11:08AM
icer said...
i wish i could have a kodo fo my human warrior
i don't think mounts should b faction only
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