Honestly, seems like you're hoping it'll suck.

I'd love to get rid of Omen for something better, because Omen is already awesome.

It seems that every time potentially good news is posted here or in the official forums, there is a lot of QQ and complaints posted in reply. I am not exactly a Blizz "fanboi", but I am always willing to give them a chance before airing negative remarks.

That said, I have to agree with Kadaan in that I gotta wonder how they would make threat meters accessible. It seems that WoW's default interface tries to cater to the lowest common denominator (don't get me wrong - it's good for the game since it's easier for new players to pick up). I tend to see threat meters as a couple levels above "beginner", so I wonder if it'll be an advanced function that you'll have to manually activate.

It would be good to have a built-in one, of course. I love Omen, but it's a pain to update it every couple of days.

Even if it gives limited information, as long as it's hooked into the API, mods like Omen could become so that they deduce the other information guilds need.

For example, if it only gives exact numbers, it wouldn't be hard to look at how quickly those numbers are changing and deduce TPS, and look at how those numbers relate to each other and calculate the percentages.

I'm not hoping it'll suck. I'm just thinking the default UI implementation will be a stripped down version of what we currently have with Omen. What I _do_ believe is that it will have an internal system akin to Threat1.0 so Omen can still sit on-top without needing constant tweaks to the internal numbers. That's the only reason why "Omen" is updated so much, because the internal Threat1.0 calculations are always being tweaked.

Casual players don't need meters. They need something to broadcast threat to people who do need them in their group. They need a simple "you're close to pulling off the tank, better hold back for a few seconds" message. That is what I believe/hope Blizzard's implementation will be.

@5

I never really bought into the whole "casual" thing and your post is why, apologies if it sounds like a personal attack because it's not meant to be in this case I'll using "you" for the average casual player. You're saying you don't want hard numbers you just want a cute little message to pop up in huge font to tell you "Excuse me you should back up please you're going to gain aggro... if you don't mind please." So because you don't want to have numbers on your screen and have the most basic spoon fed experience possible those who do raid need to suffer for not having the specifics they sometimes require?

Really in my not so humble opinion, casuals should probably just stay quiet and go run a couple heroics to get their free bt gear, instead of complaining about why they can't go 2 man BT or MH in 20 minutes for phat lewts. I mean playing 2 hours a week, why shouldn't you have the absolute best gear in the game?

Was there ever a MMO before that even allowed threat meters? Most mmos probably had pretty similar threat type aggro systems, but to my knowledge, this is the first to actually allow you to see those numbers in any way.

Same-name mob tracking is coming to Omen after the 2.4 patch hits. The new combat log makes it possible.

The real treat would be hard threat numbers. Right now the addon developers have to estimate numbers based on behavior instead of having access to the actual functions.

If a base threat meter opened that process up a bit we would have a much more accurate picture especially for things like FD, Fade, Shrouding Pots, etc.

I've done every 5-man, normal and heroic, in the game, without threat meters (I do have one installed, but usually keep it turned off). This is as a healer, so it may vary by role, but I'm pretty sure the rest of my groupmates usually didn't have a threat meter either. IMO, they're only really necessary for raiding, and not even there if you're in a group that works well together.

That said, they are nice to have.

Eliah, Why would you want to do that to a group my friend?You have it but dont use it? It's not like it's something that's taking up a huge chunk of space in a 5 man and it's only purpose is to help. You must play in the most perfect wow environment where you always have CC, a good tank, and always guildies willing to run with you. On Crushridge you're lucky if half of your pug's dont completely fall apart before the first boss. /ginvite please!