I've often heard of Alliance players who get fed up with their fellow teammates for whatever reason, and decide to defect to the Horde. Perhaps they say the Alliance complains too much or seems too crowded, or even seems "less mature" somehow. But we've talked about that quite a lot already, and Horde players often say they have just as many maturity problems as Alliance has.Yet I was still surprised to discover that one of my relatively new friends had actually defected from the Horde to the Alliance. As a roleplayer, apparently he felt that the Horde roleplayers kept on rehashing the same roleplay material, about death, trollish accents, and "strength and honor." I admit that my experience with my Horde hasn't been so in-depth, but so far I'm thoroughly enjoying my Horde characters, and I haven't had the same problem at all. In fact, it's my (limited) experience that Horde tend to complain least about their faction, in the same way that warlocks complain least about their class, though not at all with the same consistency.
Have you or someone you've known ever left the Horde and made new Alliance main characters? If so, why?

















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1-18-2008 @ 8:32AM
Unundead said...
I created a horde char to start with along with all my friends who bought the game. Then most of them quit and so me and a bunch of other friends restarted alliance.
Worst, idea, ever.
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1-18-2008 @ 11:04AM
Algorithm said...
I think that most of the people who go from Horde to Alliance do so because of friends. Unless you're genuinely interested in how the Horde lives, there certainly isn't a lot of buzz about the Alliance being the greener pasture. I have played end game as Horde, and switched to Alliance to play with friends, myself.
I think it's probably a little foolish to generalize players along a fictional faction line... but I'm still going to do it.
I think a huge factor is the server (PvP, PvE, etc) you pick. From my limited experience of PvE servers, I found the Alliance pretty selfish and annoying. On PvP servers, I find the horde to be arrogant and griefers.
People I've met from the Horde have a obsessive disgust for the Alliance-vehemently hating every gnome and elf they see, whereas the Alliance's hate for the horde is much more low key (it's still there, though!).
Either way, I'm Alliance now. I have as much faction pride as they come. For Lothar/Grab Your Sword and Fight the Horde! and all that. And the experience has really made it so now I'm annoyed most by the Horde/Alliance that constantly claim that the Alliance are all idiotic little kids.
Well, you know what? I'm not. My friends aren't. And there are plenty of idiotic little kids in the Horde: from Silvermoon City to The Barrens.
1-18-2008 @ 8:32AM
Kaylek said...
Too bad the Alliance rehashes the same idea of, "I'm not really a good guy/gal, I have such a dark past."
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1-18-2008 @ 8:32AM
PallyON said...
From my personal expierence i don't think i've ever disliked the horde or felt that they ever were acting out in any way. I wont say that i've been playing forever but i have made a few alli alts here and i feel like i got more of a welcoming in org. then i did in stormwind.
FOR THE HORDE!
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1-18-2008 @ 8:33AM
Theodore said...
A Mage and Priest recently joined our guild after giving up on the horde, they say alliance lvl 70 on our server is actualy doing something rather than just PVP (Its a PVE server), which is reflected in the fact that i have NEVER won a AV in my life lol...
I suppose its server dependant as to the reasons, depends on the fractions strengths/weaknesses
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1-18-2008 @ 8:39AM
Drak said...
Roleplayers don't count/matter. Horde's better and everyone who would disagree with that statement is locked up in a school until about 2:30. I suppose thats a bit harsh. I suppose there's also 30 year old men living in thier mom's basements playing female characters. I hear thats prevalent on the Alliance side too.
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1-18-2008 @ 10:20AM
Matthew Rossi said...
You don't sound defensive at all.
1-18-2008 @ 10:27AM
Paw said...
You play a troll, don't you?
1-18-2008 @ 12:20PM
Good_Idea said...
What's with Alliance voting down inflamatory comments they don't like and voting up equally inflamatory Alliance comments on their side? lol
The "mature" thing would be to vote down all inflamatory commentary, not just based on faction.
1-18-2008 @ 12:24PM
doyesac said...
I'd vote down Drak's comment 'cos it's idiotic, even though I'm Horde through-and-through.
1-18-2008 @ 8:42AM
souvlaki said...
Having 5 alliance toons, i created a Belf Paladin just to try out my first paladin and check thow the Horde was doing... i'm currently lvl 16 and until now:
- no one has tried adding me to a guild without previously asking politely
- no one has tried adding me to a group without asking before
- chatter in capital cities is way below alliance cities
So i would say that at least in my server (EU/Tyrande) being a Horde you deal with far less annoyances...
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1-18-2008 @ 10:28AM
Hank said...
That may be more Blizzard's doing than the players. When I switched to horde, after more than a year on alliance, I had all the same problems at low-level that I had before. For that matter, last night some idiot was following me while I did a quest in shadowmoon valley, stealing the souls of the mobs I needed to kill to collect their souls. Yes, Horde.
1-20-2008 @ 12:15AM
Taxis said...
On my server, alliance trade is an absolute gongshow, and people regularly threaten to report me for stupid things like breaking up stacks to make them sell easier. I never experience those kinds of things horde side. Well, at least the reporting thing, trade chat can get pretty inane at times, usually weekends when the kids are out of school.
That said, the alliance auction house seems to bring in more money.
1-18-2008 @ 8:45AM
Cynra said...
I'm exceedingly fond of the Horde, having rolled a troll shaman as my first toon. I was coerced to join the Alliance some years ago by family members and friends who wanted to play together. The choice then was the opportunity to spend time with people I was close to, even though my preference was to continue with the Horde and my beloved shaman.
Now, I play on a different server and, yes, it's a roleplaying server. On Feathermoon US, I've seen two major reasons that people go from Horde to Alliance: to take advantage of the Alliance's larger population (whether it's the larger economy or larger pool of players for grouping together or doing raids) or because the opportunity for random roleplay is smaller Horde-side due to the smaller player base. Though I manage a small guild on the Alliance-side, I still sneak over to the Horde frequently to make sure that my "forgotten" girls get frequent leveling lovin', too!
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1-18-2008 @ 12:31PM
doyesac said...
I think this is right -- I started an alliance character simply to have the joy of shouting "Ha! Pwnd, suckers!" when a Horde downed the Alliance leaders...
...only to find the mature economy made the AH less annoying, and the large population meant more success in finding groups, even for odd and unpopular instances like Sunken Temple and Uldaman. Those are reasons enough to hold my nose and level up my little (gasp! egads! apostate!) gnome rogue.
1-18-2008 @ 8:46AM
Dipstick said...
I tried levelling a horde mage after I hit 60 on a couple of alliances characters, and decided to go to the barrens to do some levelling.
Needless to say, I never played on that character again.
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1-18-2008 @ 11:17AM
Ganesh said...
Without a doubt, the absolute worst thing about playing Horde is Barrens chat. Seriously, just how many conversations about Chuck Norris, sex with fat women, and which class is better can one take? A lot of those people will probably never get out of the Barrens, which is a great thing.
When I create alts, I just turn General Chat off in the Barrens. Then, when the alt is around level 25 and I hit Ashenvale/Stonetalon, I become a member of society again.
1-18-2008 @ 8:52AM
Derryl said...
My mains have always been on the Horde side and I've never had any major complaints. Sure, you get the occasional jerk, but such is the nature of the game.
However, when a few friends and I rolled Dwarf Shadow Priests to play in the L29 battlegrounds (big mistake), it was a completely different experience. Tons of spammy chat in cities, random invites to groups/guilds, lots of high level jerks killing low level mobs en masse for no reason, immature jerks challenging people to duels and saying "lol newb" when they won... I'll never do it again.
For the horde.
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1-18-2008 @ 8:58AM
Safety Dancer said...
First a message to all you RP's out there....GO OUTSIDE.
Now to the topic at hand...I have gone from Alliance to Horde to Horde/Alliance. I think the reason for the "immaturity" that the Alliance has is because when kids are young they want to be the "good guys" ie super heroes and firemen and policemen. I have never met a kid that wanted to grow up and be Lex Luthor. Once you get older the line between "good" and "evil" becomes very gray. Or you realize that there are no "heroes" out there, and become scorn. But thats just my theory.
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1-18-2008 @ 12:46PM
Calybos said...
Possible point... but it's the teenage years when those same kids fall in love with the "dark and brooding bad guy" image, start salivating over Venom and Wolverine, and otherwise decide that "Evul's Kewl."
So there's plenty of immaturity to go around. The Horde isn't about recognizing shades of grey any more than the Alliance is about four-color purity and nobility. For every "I'm Superman," there's an "I'm Badass Wicked."