That's stupid, especially for people like me who enjoy PVP much more then PVE.

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the problem with requiring people to go through everything and farm all the gear is two fold.

1) What happens to all the new people who sign up for Wow a few months after the expansion is out and get to 70 and it's a ghost town (much like 60 content is now) while i'm sure there would be much more people running it then there is of MC and BWL now there is definitely not going to be enough on every server to help every last person past all those instances.

2) These raiding instances are hard, most people are still trying to get through the first 25 mans defiantly more so then people who have full cleared BT and are sitting around for Sunwell. Even Naxx is hard at level 70 to people in gear. So for random people who don't raid forcing these things on them would essentially stop them from playing unless Blizzard dumbed them down to around the difficulty of the easiest of 5 mans (as i still can't always pug a normal run through all the 70 instances on some servers with sucess).

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So, you'd have to be a raider to get to the next expansion? Yeah...I'm sure people wouldn't complain about that at all.

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I think it would be awful to actually force people to use some content, if it is not something they want to do. You have to remember that some people play WoW for PvP, others enjoy simple instances and that raiding isn't everyone's cup of tea.

So if Blizzard would force all of those players to raid just so that they could see the new content a lot of players would simply leave.

I've raided all the end game raids apart from BT, because raiding is something I personally enjoy (sometimes!) but I know so many people who tried it, hated it, and never want to do it again, as they enjoy the game in dother ways, whether it be through pvp, instancing or even RP.

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Force people to raid? Are you kidding me?
This post was written by a raider already crying over a gear reset? Worst idea I've seen posted on this blog, to be honest.

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Making people go through content that they can't go to because of smalls guilds or that they don't want to is probably the dumbest idea possible. Putting a requirement on an expansion is just stupid especially requiring someone to raid.

People just need to get over the fact that your gear is gonna get replaced. Wanting your time and effort to last forever will never work. If I buy a brand new car now, I don't go around thinking that it will last forever and that I won't have to replace it. No, I assume that something newer and better will come out. The same goes for gear, all that time that you've used it up till the xpac is the reward for getting it, you don't get to keep having it help you, that's not how games or life work.

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Wow. That's a pretty dumb comment. Is there an editor at wowinsider.com or does everything just go straight to the front page?

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Forcing to people to raid to get to NON-RAID content? Not a good idea. In fact, I'd agree with the other posters and call it dumb.

However, I'd love to see some of the old-world raids adjusted so they can be run as a 5-man L70 (and after WotLK, as a 5-man L80) heroic, with appropriate loot. Give people the option of seeing new content, but don't force them to do so.

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Let me get this straight... you're advocating that the expansion only be available to players who kill Kil'Jaeden? (Well, I suppose if DK's are available at 55 without a quest, technically non-raiders would be allowed to roll a DK and level it through TBC content.) That's actually what you're suggesting, and not a typo? Cause if so, you're proposing that Blizzard not sell their expansion to 90+% of players. Completely ignoring the lack of merits of that suggestion for a moment, it would never happen for the sales reasons alone. That out of the way, people who actually beat high end raid content are the ones who don't want a level cap increase that forces them to grind before they can get back to raiding in the first place - the level cap is going up for the benefit of players who don't raid and therefore can't do the current endgame. So your solution would actually manage to be hated by EVERYONE who plays the game.

Regarding the original suggestion, I could see a system where you can prove your raiding competence to start in on Wrath raids EITHER by completing TBC 25-man content, OR by completing Wrath 10-man content (the latter being the option that existed with the TBC launch). The problem there is A) existing raiders get to bypass a time-sink, which Blizzard will never voluntarily allow, and B) backflagging replacement members once you finish the 10-man content, the same reason why the TBC attunement tree had to be gutted in the first place.

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Agreed w/ all these. This is a terrible idea. The vast majority of raiding guilds on our server are still struggling through kara. Only 5-6 guilds total on the server have gone to T5 content. So what you are saying is that for our server you can just pretty much forget the next expansion, because at most a handful of players on our server will experience BT. Do you just hate WOW players that much?

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Horrible idea, the fact is that PVP players would lose out, also Blizzard would lose money due to the fact that no everyone wants to sit and do these long instances just to buy an expansion and lvl 10 more lvls, i think a "easy" mode should be introduced ( someone posted this before) that maybe the instances ( only out dated) could be done on and like 5 maned that way the content would be seen, maybie doing these instances will unlock quests or items in northrend but completely locking the players is a horrible idea, its like saying everyone has to do MC,BWL, AQ40, ONY, AND Naxx before stepping foot in outlands

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Some of us don't raid, and would still like to play the expansion.

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Please delete this article. No one agrees with it. I'm looking forward to WotLK gear.

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