One of my good buddies in my guild is Australian. I'm on US Eastern time. Over the summer I had graduated college and was taking the summer to job hunt and would play WoW wayyyyy too much. I used to run heroics with him until 8am my time. I had to ween myself off WoW once I accepted a job offer to get my sleep schedule back on track.

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The reason is pretty simple: Zereketh does magic damage, 6-pulls at SH do melee damage.

It's easier to tank 6 mobs at once than getting around 2k shadowbolts of 3k voids.

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You'd be risking team burnout if it wasn't a PUG. Six tries is way more than you should need to realize that it isn't going to happen, heh.

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Last night about 2am the late night dementia got me bad! I had just finished a daily cooking quest and too my surprise I got my much anticipated Stormchops recipe! I was so excited to give it a try. An alt was already in Ironforge so I logged on the alt, went to the AH and bought all the Lightning Eels and Clefthoof meat. I mailed it to my main(the cook with the new recipe) and after I sent it, much to my horror, I realized I sent it to a misspelled version of my character. Oh Noooooo what was I thinking. I send stuff between alts all the time. I attribute the blunder to "Late Night Dementia" I'll have to wait another day to try out the Stormchops.

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A few times the guild has been running Kara until 4am my time. After about 1am people start to get sloppy. After about 2:30 or 3 its a miracle people are still awake. So my new Kara cut off time for myself is 1am. If people want to wipe on trash until 4am that's not my problem. To me it's a pretty strong correlation between time of night and performance, we're just not at our best after 2am (my guildies). But last night I went to sleep at 1am, they cleared trash until 3am or whatever, and a few were still online when i got up to do dailies at 8am. Pretty insane.

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Hey, Nyght, you can add the misspelled name to your ignore list and the mail will come back.

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my guilds raiding times are 10pm-2am i have only once or twice seen issues with this which usually are "sry i fell asleep" other then that we seem to get better if anything as the night goes on.

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I actually quit raiding because of people who didn't know when to stop. There's a point you reach where you realize that either the raid is undergeared for the encounter, or the raid composition isn't ideal...and you say, "Okay, enough's enough...we'll try it later." Some people don't know when to fold up the tents and walk away. They usually end up being raid leaders.

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Living on the east coast on a realm whose time is one hour behind mine, in a guild of predominately west-coasters and Canadianese folks, I find there are more than enough solid folks around me to do a great run in the “late night.” The only problem is that I wind up being the weakest link and bringing myself to ruin, often falling asleep at the helm. Indeed we finished the instance and did well, but it’s 2am server time, 10 or 11pm their time and 3am my time. Inevitably I see “it’s still early, who’s up for another run?” as my consciousness waxes and wanes and I begin to shift my weight between butt-cheeks and alternatively rest either eye. It’s tempting to continue on with a group that can easily AOE-pull heroic shattered halls (how often does that happen!?), but there’s something suddenly sobering about the realization that I may be facing 3 hours of sleep followed by 9 hours at work reeling from virtual victory yet suffering physical exhaustion.

Of course, before I joined this guild, I was a hardened PUG mercenary and would often sacrifice sleep and sanity for one last chance at that all-important additional piece of my heroic hunting set. Indeed, I won those pieces over time, but all-too-often it was 5 am when we rolled empty-handed out of Sethekk Halls into the barren city of Shattrath. One thing that I found to my wonder was that there were far fewer petty, immature and transient players late in the night. The casuals have long since foregone ambition for the all-important considerations of reality, the children have been unwillingly ushered off to bed by responsible parents, and the otherwise less obsessive players have gone on to farming or late night bank grooming.

While I wouldn’t say that the definite quality of players improves in the aging night (and certainly not the selection), I would say that the hunger and desire of those players has grown and they will take many matters much more seriously and tackle them with greater care when precious minutes of sleep are weighed against opportunity, ultimately in favor of ambition. I attained many of those pieces in our group’s darkest hour, at the brink of failure and after many replacements of fallen allies. I still flinch a little as I slowly replace them all in the brighter evenings of my newfound raiding days with relative ease. And to this day, I still hang on to some of those pieces, though they will never prove superior under any combination of my equipment than what I have gained since… for they are stained with many hours of lost sleep and carry the rank stench of struggling PUGs which has grown sweeter as those experiences continue to prove my mastery over the petty squabbles among the raiding class, long removed from the grimey work of personally forging success from a band of alien strangers in the wee hours.

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I'm new to Outland, (played pre-BC and recently restarted) and run ramps three times. 30 gold in repair fees, and I still haven't cleared the instance. I'm decked out purple, everyone i've played with has been competent, but we keep having trouble, even the first boss. I just hope people will be geared better once I get to Furnace.

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Zereketh is a bastard. My guild is working on T5 content and that shmuck still ruins us sometimes.

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I just completed a 12:30 AM to 3:45 AM Karazhan run. Back in the day, we used to clear Karazhan in 2 days. We'd clear one increment up to Aran to get the port, then clear the top tier bosses another day and we'd stop at a reasonable time like 1 AM. Now that we substantially outgear Karazhan, we feel compelled to clear it in one day.

Unfortunately, most of the people in this run either don't have day jobs (grad students) or live at least 1 time zone removed from me, so they wanted to keep going. I shouldn't have done it but we already lost one person to sleep and I felt if I quit, I'd be letting down 8 other people.

P.S. We had 5 paladins for Zul'Aman once. It actually wasn't that bad; 2 protection paladins for tanking, 2 for holy paladins for healing, and 1 retribution paladin for DPS. I ended up having Blessings of Kings, Might, Light, Salvation, and I may have had Wisdom (as a warrior)

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My favorite time to be on is 5 am to 6 am Monday Night/Tuesday Morning when the cities are empty, the sun is just glinting above the horizon over stormwind, and the server is counting down to daily maintenance.

There are so many things you can do during this time: Find some other people and panic because the "world is coming to an end!"

Or do a Schrodinger's Cow experiment, where you take a tauren and leap from a point of thunderbluff that you aren't totally sure will kill you, RIGHT before server shut down. Until you log in and find out, the Tauren is both dead and alive at the same time.

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