You don't have to tolerate racism in WoW
It turns out that if you encounter such language in WoW, you can report other players for racism. Vaneras stepped in to confirm that Blizzard does not tolerate racist language, and such comments will get those players banned. Although I have not encountered racist language in WoW myself, I heartily encourage anyone who does to report that player. Dealing with racism in real life can often lead to awkward confrontations with people who refuse to admit what they were saying was wrong in any way, but in WoW, Blizzard is all set to do that for you, while at the same time helping to make sure there are negative consequences on racist behavior.
Although Vaneras doesn't mention it in his post, it is my understanding that the same also follows for other forms of discriminatory language, such as sexism. While of course there can be a lot of annoying grey area in such issues, another reason to such offenses in WoW is that Blizzard may actually have proof of what the other person said stored in their systems, and a genuine problem is more likely to receive a real consequence than might otherwise be the case.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
11-24-2007 @ 2:37PM
Bobbo said...
Completely 100% agree with reporting people for this. Now just waiting for the responses here stating that words have no power, it's free speech, don't be so uptight, etc. etc. etc. Good times.
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11-24-2007 @ 3:04PM
Zuty said...
I hate Drainos, I don't think any other class will be able to understand my feelings towards a race that stole your faction specific class unless you main played Shaman in Beta (Like I did).
I am fine with any other Ally race, but if I see a Draino I spam them with /Spit, /Rude, and /Slap. If they are flagged, I gank and corpse camp them. I even had one instances where the player deleted his characters and rerolled Horde just to yell at me.
I even got banned for using the word 'Draino'. I will never call them by there true name, they do not deserve even that much respect from me.
~Zuty
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11-24-2007 @ 3:09PM
JPN said...
I never see the n-word, but i've seen "fag" pretty much three times a week. But of course that one will never change
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11-24-2007 @ 3:21PM
anon said...
I once asked a guildie not to use "Jew" and "jewish" as insults, and he replied with, "If you were really 18, you'd be fine with it. Only old people care about stuff like that."
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11-24-2007 @ 3:21PM
Chris Anthony said...
Zuty, seriously, go outside and get some fresh air.
Agreed with #1. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words are a bannable offense.
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11-24-2007 @ 3:34PM
kevin said...
using the word "fag" isn't racist. i'm not condoning it, but it's not racist. Neither is using the word "jew". Judaism is a religion. Homosexuality is a lifestyle.
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11-24-2007 @ 3:41PM
Ancalimon said...
@2 seriously, its a game. i think its about time you get a new hobby until you realize WoW is NOT real life. Alliance got a new class...who cares. Horde got pally's, u dont see us crying about it. get a new hobby, experience life (REAL life), grow up a bit, then come back to wow to save us all from the headache of listening to your adolescent babeling.
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11-24-2007 @ 3:51PM
Zuty said...
See, No one understands. It may be a game, but instead of making a new class they make the faction only classes cross faction.
Its hard to make people understand the lore problem here and why it pisses me off that freakin' aliens get MY class which is only meant for my faction. We all know that Allys got Shamans because they QQ'd to Blizz long enough, don't even try and say other wise the forums were filled with posts begging Blizz for access to Shamans.
Take Pallys back for all I care, just make sure to wipe out all Drainos. A genocide I say!
~Zuty
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11-24-2007 @ 3:56PM
Cailleach said...
If you use a word to hurt or denigrate someone beyond all proportion, it's WRONG! Duh, I know all of your mamas have told you that if you can't say something nice, say nothing at all. You always disrespect your mama? No, I didn't think so.
Think of it this way. If a 6'5" 300 lb drunk specimen of whatever nasty racial, religious, sexuality, or gender slur you're thinking of using would DECK you if you said it to his/her face -- DON"T. How hard is that? Just because you're not in immanent danger of bodily harm doesn't make it OK to do.
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11-24-2007 @ 3:58PM
my2cents said...
Hmmm...Something tells me Zuty's posts may be a clever parody of the idiot racists in real life...if so, very clever. If not, please seek professional help =P
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11-24-2007 @ 4:01PM
Zegim said...
In before the obligatory "That's gay. Words mean nothing, fags." comments.
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11-24-2007 @ 4:03PM
Erika said...
On my realm there was a guy spamming the n word and it took him 6 hours to get banned. This was a while back but still. I can tolerate fags and stuff about you can choose. Religion doesn't bother me either but race does. Race ius something you have no control of. But i do hate gnomes.
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11-24-2007 @ 4:04PM
seanmichael.rau said...
@6 homosexuality is not a lifestyle.
people do not choose to be oppressed, discriminated against, harassed and murdered.
homosexuality is a genetic trait much like hair and skin color.
i've never experienced more ignorance, intolerance and hate than in the WoW.
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11-24-2007 @ 4:10PM
Tetsman said...
I did report racism once. A mail from Blizz said that they wouldn't be able to notify what they found, but I felt ok that my claims for racism were somewhat listened to.
I won't go deep into what happened, but there was a guy ranting about the Hispanic community in WoW, and well, he said nasty, stupid and offensive things.
So well, I reported him and never saw him again.
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11-24-2007 @ 4:16PM
theremover said...
As long as no double standards are in play, I agree about bans. But that's near impossible. And there's issues with humans measuring the threat of specific racism. Most people are conditioned to think talking about african americans, for instance, in a certain way is a lot worse than when an african american talks about a white person in an offensive way. Let's not forget too about weird grey area involving persons using race oriented comments about their own race.
I've reported persons for refusing to stop with what I'd say was at the top of the offensive language list and they received no ban as they were back at it in no time.
Too many things can be perceived as racist and argued both ways. It's not going to be something easily policed except in the most malicious of overt acts of racism.
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11-24-2007 @ 4:19PM
theremover said...
PS,
while it shouldn't be tolerated and all should be welcome, racism in some form, mild or otherwise, is hard to avoid when you have predominately english speaking north americans on the US servers and French and Spanish language persons come to play too. Sometimes people are just plain human and get frustrated when people can't communicate clearly in English. Sometimes misunderstandings because of language barriers lead to terrible things.
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11-24-2007 @ 4:29PM
Anteia said...
I agree that people should definitely be banned if they can't learn to keep their mouth shut about unpleasant things. As to Jews being a race...History has generally indicated that they are considered such. You can't really say "Israeli" because the Jewish people spent quite a long time exiled from Israel. That did not mean they kept the same religion- Jesus Christ was, in fact, quite Jewish in descent, even though he is the start of the Christian religion. The Jews considered themselves a race, with everyone else being gentiles. (Much as the Romans did concerning everyone else being barbarians.) Whether, genetically, they are a 'race' may be arguable, but the general historical basis is that they are, and thus to a layman, it can be used as an racial insult. When Renaissance times called misers Jews, they did not do so because the person was religious, but because of their descent.
Secondly, Homosexuality CAN be termed a lifestyle. Whether it is genetic is actually still arguable, as there have been conflicting scientific reports, but I'm willing to say it is a preference born inside a person that they cannot easily change (if ever at all, and not saying they need to try). They can, however, choose not to act on that preference. In the same way, heterosexuality is a lifestyle and bisexuality. Lifestyle simply means a pattern of choices of BEHAVIOR, not feelings or urges. People should still be banned for harassment of this, in the same way a homosexual insulting someone for being heterosexual and sexually harassing them should be. Not that the latter happens very often (I can't think of an occasion myself) but if it did, very few would say that the heterosexual person is 'wrong' to report the homosexual.
Frankly, it comes down to this- if it would insult or lessen your enjoyment of the game if it was aimed at you, why do you think you have ANY right to say it about another person? Now, if it's a case where someone's clearly being oversensitive, the GMs will probably watch and not take banning action. As they shouldn't. But some cases are just obviously intolerable.
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11-24-2007 @ 4:38PM
Spadron said...
@2 Nice one :)
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11-24-2007 @ 4:38PM
hpavc said...
You can easily get someone that is annoying you banned by saying a mundane Yiddish phrase or two in /say to them. They will immediately come back with an anti-semitic rant, you report how your child was insulted online and you call the CSR and bam. They are gone or likely on their way to Walmart for another copy of the game.
I have seen screen shots of people doing the same pretending to be Chinese after being harassed in game. And then the person will launch into a diatribe.
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11-24-2007 @ 4:39PM
Shotgunbadger said...
Of course, what they won't say is unless a GM sees the text in a log, screenie, or being there himself, they can't do anything, since there is no hard proof.
So, to add to this article, you DON'T have to tolerate this crap, and no one should, but if you want the racist/homophobe/sexist person to get punished you NEED a log of some kind with a clear character name and obvious foul language.
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