Hmm. Can anyone tell me what UI/mod is used in that pic? I like the round buttons :D

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Comments on forums relating to MCing and DPSing down the reaver seem to be in the August/September range.

I thought blizzard had triggers that told them when raids skipped bosses, downed mobs without nearly any inbound damage and what not.

Also I am not sure where 'ingenious tactics' and 'exploits' begin and end. This blue posts should be better worded to clearly comment that these guys didn't break any rules. Clearly its a legit form of crowd control, clearly there are encounters where enslaving and mind controlling the mobs as offtanks/dps is important.

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The only reason this works is because the bombs aren't on the global cooldown. If they are, the DPS is rather less impressive. Slapping a 5 second cooldown on it solves the problem entirely without really affecting the mob (they don't chain fire them as it is).

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Um, if Blizzard designed this ability to function as so, is it really an exploit? Might be in the best interest of Blizzard to fix problems where they see fit, but at the moment isn't this ability "working as intended"?

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The circular buttons can be had with CyCircled and Bartender3.

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LAME!

I hate it when Blizzard does this! Is this an exploit? I don't think so. People just found a creative way of doing something they didn't expect.

They can fix it in the next patch, but there's nothing ban-able about that.

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MacKoroni
It would be cyCircled
http://files.wowace.com
or
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6287-cyCircled.html

I use it with bongos so I don't know if it works on the standard blizzard interface or not

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Unfortunately, Blizzard has a habit of arbitrarily defining some things as "exploits" simply because someone found a way of doing something in the game that's much easier, more effecient, etc than the standard way, even though they're working within the confines of the game mechanics and not causing anything to glitch out.

For example, my friend (rogue) got banned for a few days for soloing chests in Mech. If the chests can be soloed, how is that his fault?

However, this is Blizzard's game and they can do what they want =P. And there is a rather easy way of knowing if what you are doing would be considered an exploit:

1) Did you find a way of doing something that makes it so that making money or downing a boss/instance is almost too easy?

2) Is it something creative or hidden that Blizzard probably didn't think of?

If so, and they find out you're doing it, chances are they'll decide to call it an exploit. =)

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I take issue with the OP's assertion that this is an exploit.

It's using the abilities as intended. This is BLIZZARD'S fault. Every guild should be doing this now until they fix it.

If they want to fix it, put a CD on the ability. Problem solved. MC'ing mobs against bosses is nothing new.

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It is only an exploit because

you can make a macro spamming /cast (name of spell, i forget) as many times as you can.. Since there is no global cooldown it will do damage for each line of /cast whatever.

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/click PetActionButton6 is the macro iirc.

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These are design failures, not exploits. If they ban a rogue for stealthing through a dungeon to loot chests, then they have to ban all skinners for farming the animals in the Black Morass for leather, or all paladins for tanking 10+ equal level mobs, or all locks for fearing. If they don't want rogues doing that then they just need to put mobs by the chests, or have the chest spawn guards or something. The Tempest-Smith needs to have a global cooldown, that's it. These are not exploits. Exploits are when you skip trash mobs by altering/reloading game files and walking through walls, or manually toggling your internet connection while pvping. You can't give a customer (we pay for this service) tools, and then ban them for using those tools, not if you plan on keeping said customers.

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You used to be able to use the Gnomish Universal Remote on the last boss in Gnomeregan. This always seemed to fit into the whole theme of the instance especially considering the special engineering schematics quests with the DELTA access card and all. For some reason, Blizzard decided that was an exploit and "fixed the glitch".

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Krick
http://www.tankadin.com

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@8: That's because the Mech chest method utilised a pathing exploit. If he had killed the surrounding mobs, it would have been fine. (hint)

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wow nice

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It's bullshit when somebody does something totally reasonable that Blizz didn't happen to think of and they suddenly call it an "exploit". It's NOT an "exploit", they're just hiding behind the word.

An exploit is where you take advantage of code limitations or AI issues to cause bugged behavior in the game. Using a normal power in a normal way on a mob that you should reasonably be able to use it on to make an encounter easier... NOT AN EXPLOIT.

Blizzard loses credibility when they whine cravenly about player creativity. Being creative is the whole POINT. If I didn't want the chance to be creative, I'd be playing chess, not WoW.

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I like the fact that they threaten to punish the players to make up for their programers' incompetence

GG blizz

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@6 It wasn't necessarily an exploit before, but NOW, since a blue post has labeled it as such, it IS.

That is all the reason Blizz will need to justify using the banhammer.

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You can't just make up your own definition of exploit and expect it to be true. I believe blizzard has stated that an exploit is anything that goes against the intended game mechanics. Player's cant' decide what is and isn't considered an exploit seeing as it's up to blizzard's developers to decide

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It is an exploit in that you are benefiting from using the game's mechanics for which they were not intended due to a programming oversight.

In computer security, an exploit is defined as an unethical or illegal attack that takes advantage of some vulnerability. It may not be illegal but is clearly unethical.

That being said if people would just keep their mouths shut instead of showcasing their 1337 h4x0r skillz on youtube we could have kept profiting from phat lewts.

/sigh

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