I'm not sure the Onyxia-kite, rocket chicken, and the paper zeppelin and gryocopter are items made through engineering.

One of the comments at MMO-Champion says that they're the prizes from the next "expansion" (or whatever you wish to call it) of the card game.

At the very least, the Onyxia-kite certainly looks like it would be from it.

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you know what I want? A [Terror Engine]. An engineering trinket that fears everyone within 3 yards (including the caster) for 3 sec with a 5-10 minute cooldown. To me that's the sort of thing that engineering is for: Guns/ammo (when you can use them) and trinkets that have a modicum of usefulness, plus a hefty helping of personal endangerment. I'm an engineerin IRL, and it's totally the same ;)

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Meh looks very cool, but adding in a new cosmetic thing every patch doesnt really help Engineers.
Repair Bots are useful, flying machines are cool, and trinkets are fun, but Engineers are still spending time farming mats or buying them, making BOP/Engineer only items, and taking up trinket slots, where important stuff like stats trinkets need to be, with glorified Squirrels in a Box.
Zee goggle did help, but overall zee goggles did nothing and in my opinion Engineering's are pretty much just at the point where every other profession was before the lauch of TBC in terms of usefullness.

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Yeah, to me they have still not addressed the engineer problem.

While the engineering mount is the most wondrous thing in the game, It still doesn't actually make your character better.

Engineers need to able able to make something comparable in power to Spellfire &/or something of as much utility as Health or Mana pots.

I want so much to go back to engineering, but other than goggles (& the worlds sexiest mount) it still has nothing to offer me. :(

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Loot cards, cool. I don't know why Engineering gets all the cool crafted "toys" and none of the other professions do. Hopefully if these toys are for real, they aren't BoP only.

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Im getting sick of the loot cards, they should be putting this stuff in the game not making us spend more money on top of the 15$ a month

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What I want to know is, why should Engineers get all the toy fun? Why can't my tailor make a teddy bear, held in off-hand?

More seriously, I think the real issue is that splitting toys across all the professions would be a nifty nod to the RP crowd. They make great presents, allow for fun interactions, etc.

(Plus, seriously. Teddy bears. There should be a quest to make them and give them to the orphanages for Children's Week or something.)

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Well, I've been looking at these new models that people say are for engineers. Something that popped into my head was that it might be related to the chinese new year kind of event.
Origami being the zeplin and gyro-copter...and then the kite being related to China as well.
But that is just my two cents

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Uh... if you trained to be an Engineer for the "usefulness" of it, you're missing the point. Seriously. Engineering is the most FUN profession in the game. Exploding Sheep? Tiny Walking Bombs? Rocket Launchers? Poultryizers? Come on.

Yes, Engineering could craft more useful items but in all seriousness, that's not the point behind the profession. It's the craziest profession of all, and the Flying Machine makes it all worth it, believe me. I have absolutely no regrets with Engineering in 2.3. -- I log on to my Shaman just to fly around Turbo-Charged. It's THAT fun. I rolled Engineering to make the Tiny Walking Bomb, which IMO is still the best vanity pet in the game.

Engineering is about having fun, not about raid utility. That's what all the other professions are for. Engineering allows the Engineer to do a little of everything. If the items they made - like the Net Projector - were usable by just anyone, it would be a pretty boring game. The few things that Engineers can make that are useful to others, like the Repair Bot and (in 2.3) the Potion Injectors, should be enough. If Blizzard adds more in the future, great. If not, Engineering is STILL the most FUN profession out there.

You can make TOYS. Come on. If you're asking for more utilitarian items, then you've missed the point by a mile.

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"You can make TOYS. Come on. If you're asking for more utilitarian items, then you've missed the point by a mile."

I agree. The new flying mount = toy. For those that want it, great! Me, it'd just sit in the bank beside my far-too-large netherdrake mount...which is why I've never done engineering.

Toy + PvP utility? Sure, make the profession that again. That works.

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I want the kite. :(

"Wee! Lookit me kite! Lalalala!" says the troll hunter who just got through slaughtering the inhabitants of Westfall.

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