BRK tipped me off to these little gems. I'm a hunter, and I fully endorse Hunters using this item and passing off those Super Mana Pots to their friendly healers.

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But.. but.. Arcane Shot! Volley! VOLLEY! NOOO.

Yeah, it does seem like a good idea.

And by the way, Chris, I'm really enjoying (if not your writing, which is at least on a level of "good") the images you put up with your posts.

Half of 'em make me want to resubscribe (though not the above slide, dwarf ladies cramp my style.)

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Dwarf ladies are awesome. Best toons of the whole game. People I would like to know, not animate Barbie dolls for guys to stare at.
When you meet a lady Dwarf, you can bet there is a real female, or maybe a truly mature male behind the keyboard.

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Alchemist's Stone!

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Yeah... a hunter mana wet dream.

Wonder how they'll top these in Wrath... 6000 mana, reduces incoming heals by 10%? :P

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Given the penalty, I don't think these are even worth it to hunters (which my main is). I'd rather take my chances with multiple super mana pots than take a continuous hit to my DPS. Besides which, 3200 mana is just not a make or break benefit when I have 6700 total mana unbuffed.

Basically, the potion is stupid. It's sole purpose is to elicit a lot of speculative talk and almost no action. Go Blizz go.

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@7: You realize of course that Hunter's shots are never affected by Spell Damage, right? Arcane and Volley included.

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Don't forget: Hunter, er, Fel Mana Potions are on a separate cooldown from normal health/mana potions. So if you're really burning the mana on a fight (or expect to need a health pot in addition to extra mana), you can take both!

Also, they taste yummy.

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@9 actually no... I use these and they are on the potion cooldown.

I actually use them in late fights on my dps priest. (with Alchemist's Stone)

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any raiding hunter worth a grain of salt chugs these.

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As the article said, there is NO downside. Mend pet doesn't take the healing hit. None of the hunter shots take the spell damage hit. It's a guaranteed 3200 mana in place of a super mana pot. It might as well be called "Hunter Mana Potion".

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Well, this post got me thinking. I haven't checked out the main article, but off the top of my head - if a healer can sacrifice some of their mana regen stat/s (ie. spirit or mp5) and get that 50 healing instead, and chain pot these, in many circumstances they will actually be gaining much more mana that if they had left their stats the way they were and chain potted the more expensive Super Mana Pots, which in a worst case scenario are going to give a 1400 less mana refund each time.

That said, if you're already chain potting then that extra 200 mana each time may not be worth it (still, you can trade out around 6mp5 for 50 odd healing with gems if I'm not mistaken, and over 2 mins that 6 mp5 would only give 144 mana as opposed to the 200).

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Erm, embarassing, feel free to ignore my previous comment avid readers. ^_^

Unfortunately, I've not actually used any of these myself and was unfamiliar with the debuff... the problem with the debuff is...

IT STACKS. UP TO 10 TIMES.

In a 10 min boss fight, chain potting these (1 at the first min, 1 every 2 mins until min 9) is going to give you a -250 healing debuff which is pretty significant.

It does provide a big mana refund advantage over Super Mana Potions, but you need a good amount of +healing to be able to wear that kind of hit. For some, this will be the better option. For others, Super Mana is the way to go.

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Do the individual charges of a stacking debuff have their own cooldowns - or does drinking a new potion reset the duration of all charges back to 15?

If it doesn't, then this potion can't possibly stack 10 times. The debuff lasts 15 minutes. Potion cooldowns on 2 minutes.

Ergo, chain drinking these potions can only bring the debuff up to 8 charges, and even then, the full 8 will only last for about 1 minute before dropping back down to 7 (less if you ever refrain from chugging the instant your cooldown ends).

But I'm a hunter, so what do I care? :)

@3 Amen.

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Quoten:
"In a 10 min boss fight, chain potting these (1 at the first min, 1 every 2 mins until min 9) is going to give you a -250 healing debuff which is pretty significant."
Considering, that in the article, the following is clearly stated: "they restore 3200 mana over 24 seconds, but also reduce your spell damage by 25 and your healing by 50 for 15 minutes."I´m astonished how many wrong things can possibly fit in one comment...
1. As Ammon said already, the debuff will never be able to stack 10 times
2. 50x10 = 500

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Most stacking debuffs work like stacking buffs, you get one debuff slot with a "2" or "6" or whatever on it. If thats how it works, adding another one will reset the timer, so you could stack it up to 10.

These are a bad idea for a typical healer, Super Mana Pots and the incredibly cheap Superior Mana Oil are your friends.

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How bout this:

Hunters- Use that and let the healers use super mana pot.

Healers- Use super mana pot and let the hunters use their mana pot


3200 health FOR 24 sec
Think about it.

3200 > -50/-25

I think I would use this for emergencies then for a mana regen. But what do I know Im a warrior!

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As a hunter I must say, Fel Mana pots RULE!

It's only a matter of time before Blizz realizes they've helped us and adds our attacks to the penalty?

FYI... If one has a dirty mind (and I do) that pic can be considered slightly obscene... I like it!

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Also a hunter, also very fond of the Fel Mana pots. But not very fond of their cost, and their scarcity on my AH. I often wind up with stacks of super mana pots instead, just because they are so much cheaper and readily available.

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