Well, at least Frost mages have other spells to fall back on. They can still cast Fireball or Arcane Missiles or whatever, even if they're not very good.

Pity the poor Elemental shaman who goes up against a Nature-immune boss. They might as well put a big "elem go home" sign at the door. Guess we've just gotta toss on our resto gear and heal.

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There's shadow-immune mobs in Shadowfang Keep.

... not like that counts at lvl 70 or anything. >.>

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There are shadow immune mobs among the Netherwing dragons in Blades Edge.
But a shadow immune mob would kill the shadowpriest, as he has no other spells to count on. At least a mage can cast his fireballs now and then, even if it is less efficient then casting frostbolts.

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Just think how much fun warlocks are going to have when half the mobs in Northrend are undead and thus immune to fear.

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It's really not that common that something is completely immune to a certain type of spell, mainly elementals. They'll probably be extra resistant towards frost though, but then maybe not. Northrend might be "the frozen north" but the entire continent isn't a big ass glacier either.

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@ 3

Near as I can tell, shadow immunity doesn't affect smite.

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Oh boo freaking hoo. Let's discuss all of the mobs in Karazhan that don't bleed. Somehow rogues and cat druids still manage.

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Well paladins have to spec Holy if they want to raid so i don't see the reason for QQing.

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Umm...Boo hoo? Go respec, you can make the moeny back in like, a day.

Lets talk about pallys, Woo hoo! Undead gonna get owned! its like WPL/EPL all over again!

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Blizzard did take a step in the right direction though.

Pre-BC all raids had a Theme. MC was Fire immune and needed Fire Resistance. AQ was the same with Nature. Naxx was half Nature half Frost.

Post-BC, we don't have entire instances dedicated to a certain school of magic, but rather a single boss.

The only resistance fight in SSC is Hydross, who is Half Frost, Half Nature (depending on the phase), there are no other bosses in there that are immune to frost.

The Eye is similar. Al'ar is immune to Fire, but thats the only boss in there like that. Void Reaver, Astroglider, and Kael are all normal.

I havent' experienced it myself, but I understand Black Temple is the same, 1 single Shadow Resistance fight (Mother Shazzrah I think).

I would much prefer these than entire instances dedicated to 1 specific school.


And in the future, we'll likely see something similar.

The Nexus, considering its held with Blue Dragons, is likely to have something related to Arcane themes. I'd bet anything with the Nerubians will be based around Nature. And its probably a given that some of Arthas' Liches will be Frost immune.

Now, some people will debate that it seems worthless getting an entire resistance set for a single boss, when you used to get the set for an entire instance.

I think the biggest point though, is that its nice that we don't have to have our Tier sets dedicated to a specific resistance, as they were pre-BC.

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Yeah, really it is fair. To be at the top of the DPS charts in raids has a cost, and this is it. It's the same cost that Hunters have to pay for switching between raiding and farming, Marks to BM and then back again (to be fair, we can hunt while specced marks, but it's not as easy).

The other weakness of the Mage (cloth armor) doesn't really come into play in a good raid group, so spell resist (and immunity) is their raid weakness.

Plus, would it make sense that some kind of ice monster could be killed by ice?

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Ahahahah !!

It started about frost mages that would have frost immune problem in Northrend. And it ends with everyone complaining about their classes having their own problem about immunity :)
Poor frost mages ;)

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just wait until we have to do some naga-intense content, frost mages will also be gimped there since naga like to have water elementals as sentries.

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Yeah, maybe ice elementals, etc., should be immune to frost, but blizz could say that all the other creatures out there have evolved to tolerate a certain amount of cold, and adding any more cold would hurt them like any other creature. Don't those dumb walruses wear parkas? They can't be frost immune if their blubber doesn't protect them well enough.

When i go to the snow, I dress appropriately, but a snowball in the ear still pisses me off. :)

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Arcane is the Best for raid DPS as a mage anyways..

And @ The hunter comment, Beast is also the better of the 2 for Raids, IMO. if put with the right group, they own face.

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Actually, it's not comparable to mobs immune to bleed or paladins having to spec holy at all.

It's more like having a boss that, while feral and holy paladin specs work wonderfully on everything else, suddenly comes up "immune to feral" or "immune to holy paladin". Which in the case of a mage, is about what it amounts to.

Point is, yeah, it was cute, and it had its time and place. But it's tired and overdone at this point. I would encourage Blizzard to not do away with boss magic immunities entirely necessarily, but at the very least carefully consider the annoyance factor of continuing to do so.

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So everyone's getting upset about rumors and guesses for game content for an expansion you can't even play for over nine months to a year from now?

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@8

um pallyies don't have to be holy to raid.
my guild uses a pally main tank for Kara

heck go watch the video of 10 pallies running kara and tell me that holy pally is the only way to roll

I'm personaly working on getting a damage set and working on prot/ret

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Poor mages have to respec from one damage build to another and do more damage... that must really suck. When you have it as bad as classes the are forced to respec to heal and suck at everything else, PVP, grind all that, you can complian. Priest comes to mind. Whatever a mage respecs to will be good and they will do what they are meant to do fine if not better, DPS. So QQ.

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"I liked Frost because of the pvp viability and utility it brough [sic] outside of raid bosses"


Translation: It let him get away with freeloading off the efforts of 24 other people to get free epics. Word it however you want, but not pulling your weight in raids night after night is exactly that.

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