I avoid the official forums like the plague. Forums are always a good indication of the types of people that play the game.

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The forums are a cesspool, but Tseric posting drunk doesn't help. He caused a lot of it by posting without thinking and then trying to get the last word in EVERY TIME.

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I agree the Official Wow forums are total crap. I for one NEVER go there. Unless to check if my escapades the previous night, have gained notoriety on the realm forums.

Other then that i completely agree with Tseric.

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I have to agree with Tseric. I generally avoid the official forums due to the level of idiocy that goes there. Most forums or blogs, or plain ol'sites like wow insider, tend to draw the serious but the "HEY HEY LOOK AT ME" attention getters that the official forums tend to draw.

so...I would have to give Tseric and the other official moderators some credit and grace...I would not want that job.

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I take everything that I see in the official forums with a massive grain of salt. The way I've always looked at it is this: The forums are an extremely vocal minority who will whine, bitch, and complain about absolutely anything. Having said that, there are always exceptions to the rule. Sometimes you'll stumble across that diamond in the rough and it makes it all worth it. And I have to say... I fully support Tseric's tirade in the forums. It's something that they deserved, and had coming for a LONG time.

Also, if you want to see a *decent* forum community, check out the overseas boards. (forums.wow-europe.com) I find that set of boards to be much more civil and generally full of better information.

-Daki

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Edit to my post:

meant to type "tend to draw the serious but NOT the "HEY HEY LOOK AT ME" attention getters"

did not type in not...feeling foolish...mybad.

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10% signal, 90% noise. There's some great stuff on the forums, such as the Lux et Umbra guide on the priest forums. Some of the individual realm forums are also quite all right.

WOW General is a total cesspool though.

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The offtopic forums are the silliest. Anytime anyone tries to have a discussion about anything, entire threads are deleted without any explanation, regardless of the politeness of the posters, with no hint of why in the rules. It's almost pointless to have a real discussion about anything: it's not allowed. No wonder its so bad.

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I love the freakin forums.

Such a great place to be a totally mindless asshole.

It's like 24/7 Barrens Chat! w000000000 \m/

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Tseric's posts are why I read the official forums. The entire place is overrun with whiny, "I pay $15/mo for Blizzard to make all my dreams come true" idiots, and Tseric's the only one with a great enough sense of job security to actually tell it like it is.

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"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."

I've never been particularly impressed with the official forums, but I keep wanting to be. I keep trying to go back, and every time Sturgeon's Law trips me up within five minutes. My hope springs eternal, I guess; unfortunately, so does the forum trolls' banality.

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I read the forums to keep up on blue responses to classes. I also read my realm forums to keep up on realm drama. Like, did you know that somebody is having a WoW Affair?! There is just so much good stuff to be found!

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I learned a huge lesson from the last MMORPG I played: don't go to the official forums... ever.

They are, in my opinion, NOT an indication of who plays the game. They are a very, very vocal minority, but mostly a lot of complainers and drama kings. They have better gear than you, better skilllllz than you, they spec better, play better, and their grasp of the English language is second to none.

One of the best things about this game is that it's so popular, there is very little information you can't find elsewhere. Kaliban's loot guide, Jame's Leveling Guide, and Thottbot come to mind.

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I started browsing the forums a few months ago and now I wished I hadn't. It's overrun with tools, jerks, assholes and morons who all think that the 'customer is always right'. Work in retail or in the service industry for a week and then tell me whether the customer is always right.

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the shaman forums are pure poison right now. i used to read them for funny/interesting discussion but now it's a horrible, depressing pit of despair.

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On the one hand, Tseric is an idiot. Opinionated, hard to deal with when there's a genuine concern, and very ready to make you look ridiculous because he can.

On the other hand... he's dead on about the forums. And without a lot of active policing, which would be too expensive for Blizzard, I think that they're just going to continue to be the cesspool of humanity that they are.

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I'm a casual player. I usually log on for a couple of hours on the weekend, so needless to say I rarely visit the forums. I leave that to my boyfriend. However this latest brouhaha caught my attention.

I'll just say that Tseric is right that sometimes excessive complaining turns players off, on the other hand self-righteous community managers don't do much for the image of the game and community either.

This whole thing is terribly amusing, because to me, it seems like he is complaining about himself.

Loud? Check.
Belligerent? Check.
Completely and utterly self centered in his point of view? Check and Check.

I never hear about a constructive criticism being responded to promptly. Usually, and unfortunately the loudest people get paid attention to first. Not that it’s right to make yourself a nuisance to humanity. Well, it’s just that, do you really think they’d pay them as much attention otherwise? Somehow I doubt that they would.

As a side note it would be wonderful if someone could explain to me WHY they break the classes in the first place. As a casual player, it seems cyclical. Right now it’s the Paladins & Shamans turn I guess.

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It's quite true about the surface being dominated by people who are constantly correcting people for mis-using the English language, (not thinking for a second about the number of people from other countries who don't have perfect English... seriously, who cares if someone mispells a word or something) calling people ridiculous (sometimes offensive) names for putting points into the 'wrong' talents or having the 'wrong' gear (whatever the poster happens to think those are) and people starting low level accounts solely for causing problems for various guilds or individuals.

One thing I've noticed recently is the different 'personalities' the class forums can have. I started out reading the Pally forum, but after I started regularly reading the Priest forums I realised how dominant the whingy topics are in the Pally forum comparitively.
The Paladin forum has all but lost any sense of humour it seemed to have when I started reading it a few months ago. At least among all of the 'Priest self loathing' threads there are a few threads that poke fun at the class, or other classes, or just at general silly beahviour in-game.

It's so right about how skewed someone's perception would get if they read the forums before even starting the game.

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The Official forums do suck. Let alone all the jerks in game who are unwilling to help and if you ask a n00b question, everyone says that you bought your character... funny, they didnt know the answer to the question anyways.

I also think Tseric should not be posting personal opinions on a forum he is paid to watch over and manage. He is not there for personal opinions, he is the buffer between Blizz and us. If i wanted to hear his personal opinions on how all of us are jerks and drive away newcomers on the forums, I'd go read his blog.

I do not go into any of the forums unless I have a technical problem, in which post people have ALWAYS been gracious enough to help. All the other forums are bogus.

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Forgot to add, it's not to say that Tseric isnt right, but his personal opinions and last word attitude should not be tolerated. Thats not customer focused, and if he cares so much about the little guy, he needs to grow up and mature.

I do agree with his opinion, but it shouldn't be posted in official blizz blue text.

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