thats just what we need, a face melter that can heal...

why dont you just give them nuclear weapons?

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It's a racial ability not a Holy ability so it should work in Shadowform, unless you are no longer considered a Drano when in SF.

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Pew Pew, not QQ


They already heal with vampiric embrace. Quit whining.

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I can't say that I like the idea of shadow priests being able to heal, however, I'm finding it hard to argue against it.

GotN is a racial ability. I don't believe it has a type like "shadow", "fire", or "nature". So therefore, provided it is not a "holy" type spell, they should be allowed to use it.

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Honestly, while it does stink that GoTN can't be used in Shadowform (I was kind of hoping and looking forward to it myself,) it does make sense from both a game play and a lore point of view.

First off, if Shadow Priests (AKA: Facemelters) had the ability to heal in Shadowform, then that would tilt the balance of just about every encounter even more so into their favor. They can already tear through most characters and character builds rather quickly from what I've seen, and giving them the ability to heal with out having to change out would just be over kill, or at least the ability to heal over time with out a chance at stopping it.

Secondly, from the lore side, this ability is, as the name says, a gift from the Naaru. The Naaru, while apparently tolerant of Shadow using Priests and Shaman in general, are beings of light and holy energy. It would make sense for their blessings and other abilities to be holy based. Thus, when the Priest does go into his/her Shadowform, they have to give up the use of GoTN until they change back.

Like I said, while it does stink that it can't be used in Shadowform, I do understand why it can't be.

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Eh, not every racial ability is usable to every class. (I'm talking to YOU, Throwing Weapons skill on my shaman!) If shadow priests need that healing, they can do what they've always done: let someone else heal them, or come out of shadow form.

I think the bigger question is: why can Draenei be shadow priests to begin with? Shadow is basically Warlock Lite(TM), and they're supposed to be all super-good followers of the Light. I would think that shadow priests would've been the first ones to line up in front of Sargeras when he came around.

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You all talk like they can't heal in shadowform already?

They get their shield and vamipiric embrace as it is... Granted blocking a racial because of your spec is an odd thing to do I understand where it comes from.

My statement would be the same as #5 when she talks about the Naaru and holy energy.

Find me a heal that's not holy based and I'd accept this. (potions/bandaids and do-dads don't count)

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Undead racials give shadow damage, why shouldn't this be concidered holy? Shadowform doesn't allow holy spells to be cast, this is a holy spell, so if you ar in shadow form, it won't work. If you need to heal that bad, then pop out of form, heal, pop back in.

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That sucks. I made a draenei priest for this purpose and the +resist to shadow - that seemed like an awesome combo to me.
If it's not allowed, then it should atleast recieve +healing.
If it counts as a holy spell, then hands should turn yellow.

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@khaja (7)

Druids and shaman use nature heals.

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er...kahja, I don't think druid heals are holy based. :P

And I agree that the racial heal is not a shadowform ability...htey can heal already and honestly, I don't agree with it being allowed to be used.

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Ok I should have said find me a priest heal that's not holy. I thought about that after I posted it but didn't bother to post a correction lol.

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There are other racials that are blocked by class, such as the already mentioned Troll racial with throwing weapons being blocked by the Shaman class. The alliance has had to deal with the +weapons for humans being blocked in various ways by the casters. it makes sense that if someone wants to spec a certain way that they wouldn't be able to use all of their racials.

However . . . I still think that the undead model with no lower jaw shouldn't be able to cannibalize :)

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Can Human and Dwarf Shadow Priests use Desperate Prayer while in Shadowform? If yes, then the Dranei should be able to heal as well.

But then, on the other hand. I'd be more interested in getting some Troll racials that don't suck balls before I worried too much about whether this should work or not.

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@acceptible risk

No they can't.

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But that's not a racial.

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Like others have said, other racial abilities are wasted when playing a certain class/spec with that race. I don't see this as any different.

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Katsiya pretty much said everything I was going to. It would be highly unbalancing if they could, not to mention that it would contridict the lore completely.

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I believe that Blizzard did a poor job of clarification here. To the best of my knowledge, the tooltip for gotn doesn't say anything about "except for shadow priests in shadow form" nor does it indicate that it is a holy spell.

I agree that it goes against the design/lore of a shadow priest to be able to use healing spells, but then again, doesn't the same ring true for warriors or mages? even hunters? They are allowed to use gotn regardless of their spec/dps/armor/time of day. Why should shadow priests get the shaft on this one?

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@Kaelwryn: It doesn't go against the lore of Shadow Priests in Shadow Form, having no healing spells. First off they do have a minor healing spell in the form of "Vampiric Embrace". The basis is that they can't cast holy spells. Originally, the 41 point talent for the Shadow Tree was going to be a shadow based healing spell, (healed 700-900 damage at rank 1, IIRC), and if they added a healing spell to the Discipline tree, a Shadow Priest in Shadow Form could cast it.

And while it, technically, doesn't say that it's a holy spell, it should be blatantly obvious that it is, just by the name. If you've cared the least bit about the story, you know the Naaru are the source or one of the major agents of the Holy Light of which the Paladins are so fond of referring to. The title of the ability is "Gift of the Naaru". Why wouldn't it be Holy based?

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